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In Reply to: Re: Yea whatever! posted by MGH on April 24, 2007 at 19:41:12:
If you rarely visit audio dealers how do you get to hear equipment before you buy?
Above you claim you've only twice bought equipment unheard.
This doesn't make sense how do hear audio gear before you buy if you rarely visit a dealer. I visit dealers often but rarely buy - but it's those non-buying visits that help me decide what gear to audition.
I assumed you mostly bought equipment elsewhere used, internet, etc. since you rarely visited a dealer.
I guess what you say makes sense if you rarely buy equipment but if that's the case your original post is nothing but an attention seeker.
Just fill us in on how you're getting your listening experiences without visiting your dealers? Huh?
Can't argue? You can't even present facts supporting your original attention seeking post.
Granted there'll always be plently of people around to agree with your "hate dealers" position - but like I said in my original response most of them are audiophiles more interested in saving a buck than building a better hifi.
You rarely visit dealers anymore because of their snobbishness? Ok douche enough said - you said it and it makes my point exactly. If you aren't visiting dealers you are hearing far less equipment than possible and are limiting your experiences. I asked you how you hear gear you are buying without visiting dealers - you failed to answer and smoke screened with your response.
This is written words Pal - your farce only fooled the foolish.
Don T. Dumb. You keep perseverating that I can't possibly audition all those equipment without going to a dealer. Do I have to explain this again? Do you want to twist my words again? How many times do I have to answer your illogical dribble? You think going to a dealer is the only way to listen to equipment. There are plenty of internet dealers/sellers who are willing to give free home audition before you buy. I have audiophile friends who lend me their equipment and vice versa. I go to highend shows - the acoustics there are not that much worse than most dealers. Do you really have any friends, except those dealer "friends" of yours? Don't you think you can make a much more valid assessment of a gear in the comfort of your own home where you know your electronics and room, rather than in a dealer who is hovering over you and trying to influence you? I thought you would have learned from your original experience of dealer salesman who basically screwed you over. My you are a slow learner. Calling the posters here cheap without any basis except from those created by your own paranoid imagination doesn't make you credible. We can go on and on. I got plenty more ammunition. Do you feel lucky punk?
I'm sure that I've had more than 100 components home in the last 5 years for evaluation from my local dealers alone.
I've also had successful audiogon and internet seller transactions as well.
You want to try to proclaim internet sellers are less snobbish than local dealers? BS, more than likely they are the same guys!!!
You're so full it in this thread. It's so obvious mail order is usually a compromise - period. The main reason (not always) audiophiles do mail order is to save money and no they don't listen to what they pay for first - period.
Yea there's always exceptions - but most of the guys agreeing with you in this thread are not going to be exceptions. And whether you are or not isn't clear either.
Damn, over 100 different componants from local dealers! Considering the largest dealers generally only carry 3-4 electronic lines, and 2 or 3 speaker lines pheonix must be the audio mecca of the world!
So let's see..... over a 100 in 5 years - that averages about 20 a year. If we go a little deeper that's about 2 a month. Sounds to me like you are a gear head, not an audiophile?
I had 5 borrowed components at my home at one time and at another time I had 8 different interconnects.
Yea I've rebuilt 1 and build another new system since 1999.
I listened to more than 20 CDPs over a 12 month period trying to find one that I liked.
One hundred might be high. Yea I've had more than 20 pairs of interconnects/cables over here and more than 20 CDPs. But I can only think of about 5 pairs of speakers, 10 amps/integrateds and a phono section. Just in the last 5 years.
But no matter what thats 60+ in home demos through local dealers.
No I'm not a gear head - a relatively small % of the time I listen is evaluation audio. And for sure I bought (ie. kept) less than 10% of what I in home demoed.
And in all honesty, as far as building great audio systems goes, I think my efforts are really only enough to guarantee me something that's good. If someone wants the "best" or close to the best they gotta put out alot more effort than me.
Do I think the average audiophile could build a great system without the help of local dealers - not unless he's fantastically lucky. A good system? Not unless he is real lucky. An average system? Sure with a bit of luck.
I call it auditioning equipment before I drop my hard earn dollars on it.
Maybe I should have just blown the wad on something I couldn't hear but fantasized about owning after reading some review or owner comment?
You are a constant source of amusement for the rest of us. Kinda like watching a chicken run around with its head cut off. Please post more!
Transparent as all get up and go if you ask me - and you did btw!
You don't get along with me and you don't get along with your local dealers.
Now I seem to be able to get along with my local dealers as well as everyone else except for people who can't get along with people, you know people like you who write crying whining posts about their difficulties in social situations.
You call me names you call b&m dealers names.
It's your problem not mine.
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