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In Reply to: Luckily... posted by Frank on October 01, 2003 at 13:52:16:
...or perhaps these experimental tapes will never see the light of day again? :-)
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as tubed Neumanns, maybe this is where you are confused they used TUBED ANALOG NEWMANNs not PCM. Telarc SACDs are pure DSD. They also use Sennheiser and AKG, none of which have PCM anywhere?Why do you make this stuff up??????????????????
the output of the new Neumann Solution D mic is pcm only.
Would either of you like some salt or pepper on that crow?From: http://www.prosoundnews.com/stories/2003/january/0107.5.shtml
Handled by Telarc recording engineer Robert Friedrich, the recording was one of the first to spotlight Neumann's new Solution-D digital microphones. Friedrich, who will be mixing all tracks in surround sound, had lots to say about the mics, and especially the level of musicianship on the date.
"The rhythmic balance within the trio is phenomenal," says Friedrich. "You don't miss a drummer because their time is so tight. John switches very easily between comping and soloing, and he was in excellent vocal form on the date." Telarc is committed to the digital pathway, having selected the Sony DSD format for all of its work, but Friedrich says he was reluctant to try the D, primarily because it uses PCM technology.
"When the D was presented, I really had to wonder how it would fit into the recording process that we've developed," Friedrich continues. "But once I heard the sound I was sold. The path is really very simple. No preamp is used. The microphone handles the A-to-D conversion, then going to a D-to-A converter and finally routing to the recording computer." Telarc used the Sony Sonoma (DSD) system for recording and editing the Birdland project. A second, laptop computer was also integrated into the loop. "This is new technology, so it might seem confusing at first, but everything is really very simple," Friedrich notes. "In addition to sending an analog signal to the Sonoma, the D uses the AES line to control the level and compression. The signal passes through a hardware device called the DMI2 on its way to this second computer."
From: http://www.proaudio.net/2003/08_aug/news/sutton_nuemann.htm
Bishop used a pair of Neumann Solution-D microphones on Sutton's last Telarc release, "Something Cool," and was determined to use them on this recording as well. "Something Cool" was the first commercially released recording to use the Solution-D mic system. We were knocked out by the vocal sound of that record, and it was praised everywhere. We wanted to build upon that success and improve the sound if possible. So this time, we used a Solution-D on the acoustic bass as well as Tierney and we'll use the Ds again when we track the string overdubs.
"The principle attraction of the Solution-D is its extreme transparency," he continues. "Tierney doesn't need any help on her voice. We don't want to cover up or enhance her sound at all, and the Solution-D doesn't impart any coloration. I use a very simple signal chain, in part because the Solution-D requires no external pre-amp. We go straight from the Solution-D to a Prism DA2 converter -- one of the best PCM D to As ever made, at 96kHz. Then we hit a GML 8900 dynamics controller, which handles some overall compression when it's needed. The D's internal high-frequency limiting is great to have when you're working extremely close to a vocalist and you have to worry about sibilants.
"I control everything from my laptop in the control room. The Solution-D software lets me send control data over the same AES cable that the signal is coming into the control room on using the system's AES 42 interface. I can change a pickup pattern, or alter the sensitivity and gain, and insert high-frequency and peak limiting without ever leaving the control room! All of these functions are controlled at the microphone itself. Add to that the openness and the clarity of the microphone and you've got a fabulous combination, which has become an invaluable tool for me. I couldn't imagine going into a session with a vocalist who has such a wide tonal range and using any other mic but the Solution-D. I've tried all sorts of classic microphones on Tierney," concludes Bishop, "but I haven't found anything that beats the D."
By the way I have no crow to eat as none of the Telarc SACDs I owned had Digital microphones (Telarc tells all in the Technical Data with each recording).AND I AM SHOCKED, TOTALLY SHOCKED THAT TELARC IS USING PCM MICROPHONES AND ONE OF THE ENGINEERS THINK THEY ARE THE BEST!
I no longer have any faith in Telarc, this is shocking truely shocking! Oh my gawd!
Anyway I buy only PURE ANALOG now, this just reinforses the correctness of my decision to listen to LPs and 4 Track 7 1/2 ips Reel to Reel tapes!
Teresa
I do note that they seem to be used mainly for certain specific applications, which they reportedly handle well. Too bad there is no corresponding sigma-delta microphone...yet. :-)
if I took your post to have a certain tone of incredulity to it. I don't know how I ever got that idea...
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