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The first week results are in , and The Beatles - Love is a worldwide hit .I have included a link to the results , as summarized by someone in another forum . Perhaps later , I , and / or some other people , will post links to the stories coming from the individual countries .
The Beatles are the best Rock band ever , and the most influential Rock band ever .
I have , previously , said that it is great that The Beatles - Love has been released on DVD-A .
Now that The Beatles - Love is a success , I will say that its release on DVD-A is extremely great news for DVD-A , and for 5.1 surround sound .
The success achieved by The Beatles - Love , may help Apple Records and EMI decide to release the entire Beatles catalog on DVD-A , and in 5.1 surround sound . This success may , also , help other labels and major artists decide to release their albums on DVD-A , and in 5.1 surround sound , too.
The Beatles - Love is a worldwide hit , and DVD-A has got it !!!!
Yeah , Yeah , Yeah .... Yeah !!!!
ZS KEKL
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A snapshot at Amazon US shows the DVD with 5.1 at number 11 with 68 reviews, and the plain 'old CD at number 4. Of course these numbers constantly change.Of the 68 reviewers that reviewed the surround DVD, only 7 mentioned the DVDA layer, and two were confused; one has noticed dropouts in the jet noise on the DVDA layer only. So 7 out of 68....If post sale focus groups refect the same, um...enthusiasm for DVDA, I doubt you'll get more. Great sales though, these must be the same millions who bought the Pink Floyd SACD "just for the remastered CD layer."
> > Great sales though, these must be the same millions who bought the Pink Floyd SACD "just for the remastered CD layer." < <I don't really think so. The big difference is that here there is a choice: consumers can either buy a CD for about £10 (in the UK) or up to £19.99 for the CD/DVDA combo. Many are CHOOSING the latter. For example, HMV in Victoria railway station, London, has just restocked the DVDAs for the third time in a week.
Furthermore, with the DVD, the words "DVD-Audio" (and the DVDA logo) are very clearly printed on the back. In addition, it is also very clearly mentioned on the case inlay that a "DVD-Audio player" is required for high-resolution 5.1 playback.
With the Floyd Anniversary remaster SA-CD, consumers simply had no choice, with most either not knowing it was a SACD, or they simply thought it would sound better in an ordinary CD player.
Another thing, regarding your comment as to whether posters on Amazon mention "DVD-Audio" for playback, your reasoning is one-sided. i.e. It is conspicuous that you do not also mention that a great many of the posters there don't explicitly say if they are listening in Dolby Digital or DTS either.
"Another thing, regarding your comment as to whether posters on Amazon mention "DVD-Audio" for playback, your reasoning is one-sided. i.e. It is conspicuous that you do not also mention that a great many of the posters there don't explicitly say if they are listening in Dolby Digital or DTS either.""The big difference is that here there is a choice: consumers can either buy a CD for about £10 (in the UK) or up to £19.99 for the CD/DVDA combo. Many are CHOOSING the latter. For example, HMV in Victoria railway station, London, has just restocked the DVDAs for the third time in a week."
Are the people buying for the surround sound or for the DVDA? That's the million dollar question, tentatively answered in real-world reviews. It has been 6 years now. If you consider the CD 6 years after its unveiling, (1989?) it's conquest was just about complete, (though I've found a few records pressed by London/DG up to 1990.) The bean-counters at EMI will be watching.
Hmmm. It is unsurprising that Dolby digital and DTS aren't mentioned. These are ubiquitous, commonplace features. It would be as bizzare as someone mentioning PCM when reviewing a CD. People went on and on about the surround sound though.
It's all still not enough to get me to dust off my hi-res player.
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...take the argument elsewhere. I'm not allowing it. The Love release was a triumph for surround sound, nothing more. Look at the Amazon reviews for yourself. Tell me why, after 6 years, the industry still felt the need for a stand-alone CD release.I didn't pull these facts out of my head to prop up some fanatical love for a particular format--they're right there for all to see. So dispense with the ad hominem games.
On the one hand you say that you can't be bothered to dust-off your "hi-res player" (whatever that is), but on the other hand you take the apparent trouble to count the mentions of "DVD-Audio" on Amazon reviews, and then post about a format which you evidently won't even listen to. You clearly have an agenda.Your self-righteous posts, which masquerade initially as "polite" insightful comment, is a pattern of behaviour which is becoming all too familiar here.
When ALL releases are DVDA or ALL releases are SACD, *then* I will "dust off" my hi-rez player. I didn't buy a $10K system, (including an amp from your mother country), for warmed-over PCM or the occasional release of a 21st Century "Hooked On Classics." (It was a best-seller the world over too, if you're old enough to remember. : )
> > When ALL releases are DVDA or ALL releases are SACD, *then* I will "dust off" my hi-rez player < <Hey Mr. "John D. Smyth", of Sacramento, No. Ca, that's a truly ridiculous thing to say.
So is printing my name supposed to be some silly "jab" that conveniently silences me so that you don't have to respond to my points? You argue like a woman. Yes, I wrote a letter to Stereophile back when the future of hi-rez looked promising.> > When ALL releases are DVDA or ALL releases are SACD, *then* I will "dust off" my hi-rez player < <
My point was not silly at all. There are not enough titles out there for me to buy a $200 player that can't reveal the advantages of SACD or DVDA in the first place, and certainly not enough titles to warrant buying an expensive player again. And certainly not Beatles "Love"--this Century's "Hooked on Classics." LOL
If y'all want to be like the Apocalypse people, reacting to each new "sign" with tremulous, orgasmic expectancy, that the Second Coming of Hi Res is "just around the corner now," have at it. Next year like last year you'll be explaining why it's "just around the next corner."
With regard to the Beatles rehash: is the state of modern art so sad that all we have to celebrate is a re-fashioning of old material? From an entirely different point of view: Are we just too good to enjoy the Beatles' original material as the Beatles heard it themselves. Thank Darwin that BMG treated Munch and Reiner with the respect they deserved, tranferring analog master tapes directly to hi rez or vinyl.
> > Yes, I wrote a letter to Stereophile back when the future of hi-rez looked promising. < <Actually John, it was nothing at all to do with your letter to Stereophile (in fact I didn't even know you had written one). Oh no. Rather, it was your imbecile post on Amazon.com, trashing none other than Beatles "Love" DVD-A.
Here it is in all its glory, just in case you delete it:-
> > I'VE NOT HEARD SUCH A SUBLIME RELEASE SINCE THE '80's "HOOKED ON CLASSICS" WORLD-WIDE BESTSELLER , December 1, 2006
Reviewer: John D. Smyth (Sacramento, CA United States)
How happy I am to have lived during such a watershed moment in music history. Please, EMI: next give us "Hooked on Pink Floyd," and "Hooked on Rolling Stones." It is your duty to enculturate the world so. < <> > My point was not silly at all. There are not enough titles out there for me to buy a $200 player that can't reveal the advantages of SACD or DVDA in the first place, < <
Oh, another lie. So right now you don't even own any kind of hires player -- esp one that plays DVD-A. LOL
> > And certainly not Beatles "Love"--this Century's "Hooked on Classics." < <
Since you've not even heard it, you are not qualified to judge it.
> > If y'all want to be like the Apocalypse people, reacting to each new "sign" with tremulous, orgasmic expectancy, that the Second Coming of Hi Res is "just around the corner now," have at it. Next year like last year you'll be explaining why it's "just around the next corner. . . . With regard to the Beatles rehash: is the state of modern art so sad that all we have to celebrate is a re-fashioning of old material? From an entirely different point of view: Are we just too good to enjoy the Beatles' original material as the Beatles heard it themselves. Thank Darwin that BMG treated Munch and Reiner with the respect they deserved, tranferring analog master tapes directly to hi rez or vinyl. < <
You rant, rant and rant . . .
- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000JJS8TM/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-3746367-5455814?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort_by=-SubmissionDate&n=5174 (Open in New Window)
Not since Faulty Towers have I seen such infinitely perfect, dead-pan John Cleese-like apologia. Precious.Nope, my brother's got my SACD player, he uses it for DVD movies.
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