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. . . was ever "DDD". (Contrary to what was written on the back cover.)
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There is no "DDD" on the original CD or CD artwork.
. . . You are wrong. I have the CD.
That was due to the fact that completely different companies own the release rights to the Dire Straits material in Europe than in the US. BIA came out on Warner in the US, and Warner has never put a SPARS code on their pop/rock CDs in the US (with the exception of the '80s releases on the Island label, which was owned by Warner at the time). In Europe, however, BIA came out on Mercury (Vertigo), owned by PolyGram (now part of Universal Music Group) -- and they've been putting SPARS codes on their CDs since the early days of CD.
And many of the early adaptors of CD wanted "DDD" CD and would refuse to buy "AAD" or "ADD" CDs. Warner didn't want to loose sales for such a stupid reason so never used the SPARs code.So Racerguy is correct the USA Warner BIA CD had no SPARs code and Martin's UK Vertigo does.
Look below and you will see they are both arguing which one is right for about 15 posts when they are both right. In the UK I am sure there are people who bought BIA because it was "DDD" but this was not the case in the USA.
Also some of my best sounding recordings in either SACD or DVD-Audio are from Analog recordings. The best Dire Staits recording is Love over Gold and it is pure analog.
Hope this helps guys and quite arguing when you are both right!
Teresa
The correct SPARS code for BIA would have been "DAD" (Digital recording, Analog mix, Digital mastering) -- but that combination did not exist at the time the various SPARS codes were first introduced. Hence, Mercury/Vertigo was forced to use the code "DDD."
The ironic thing is that it wasn't even a "DAD", since the first letter should actually be a combination of "A" and "D". ;-)(The slave reels were analog, coupled to the DASH's 24 digital tracks.)
In other words, the three letters of the SPARS code are simply not enough to designate hybrid digital/analog recordings. They had to use either A or D -- and any hybrids would have required a four-letter SPARS code, which the industry never even considered. (Mixes are done on either digital tape or analog tape; that signifies the second letter in the three-letter SPARS code. And the SPARS code made no mention of whether a digital mixing console or an analog mixing console is used, since there were very few digital mixing consoles in existence at the time the SPARS code was adopted.)And they can't call BIA "AAD" or "ADD," either, because the recording is partially digital.
But because of a very loose rule for "digital" compliance, they had to call BIA a "DDD" recording, because it was mixed on digital tape (assuming the digital master is used in the CD mastering), and any digital at all whatsoever is involved in the basic recording (even if analog equipment is used).
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Mine was made in the US. It does not say "DDD" anywhere.
Mine is Mercury 'Vertigo', and it does say DDD.
Read my reply above. Warner Bros. owns the release rights of the Dire Straits material in North America.The Dire Straits is not the only artist whose release rights for the US are owned by a completely different company from whomever owns the release rights for the rest of the world. From the mid-'70s to the late '90s, new releases by the Roger Waters-era Pink Floyd (the albums Wish You Were Here through The Final Cut ) were owned by CBS/Sony/Columbia in the US and Canada, but EMI/Harvest for the rest of the world. (EMI/Capitol has since regained the US rights to this material.)
Off topic:
A similar arrangement is in effect for the 7-Up brand of lemon-lime sodas: Cadbury Schweppes owns the US and Canadian rights to the brand (and in Canada, Cadbury Schweppes products are manufactured by Pepsi under contract). But while Pepsi manufactures Sierra Mist for the US market, they actually own the 7-Up brand in the rest of the world. (Thus, Pepsi makes 7-Up instead of Sierra Mist outside the US.)Hope this helps,
ILoveJazz
> > Read my reply above < <I already did (hence my clarification to Racer above).
So how many millions of people thought BIA was "DDD"? I'm sure quite a lot.
Not only were the supplementary 'slave' reels analog tape (they only had one DASH 3324 in Montserrat, and they needed more than 24 tracks), but the mix took analog-outs from the 3324 DASH also. Everything then went into an analog mixing desk, prior to being sampled onto digital master tape for the CD.
> > I already did (hence my clarification to Racer above). < <Which "clarification" was that? The one where you erroneously said, "You're wrong"? :-)
Nope. The one which said I was holding the Vertigo pressing. So you could then understand why you were wrong about your comment to my observation, which was a feeble, backfiring attempt to dump on my post. ;-)
> > was a feeble, backfiring attempt to dump on my post. < <I don't have to try to dump your posts. You do an excellent job of that all by yourself! ;-)
Nice to see you stay on topic. As usual you make wild diversions to try to cover your puerile ignornace. And unfortunately for you, (and laughably for the rest of us), nothing will hide the smell whenever you take a dump here. Which is very frequent indeed.Now, since you joined my thread (I'm truly honored), do you have any views at all on the fact that BIA was marketed as "DDD", when it actually isn't, and never has been?
C'mon Racer, this is your big chance to actually say something relevant here for a change (if you can). I dare you. ;-)
You are just too easy. I really shouldn't be doing this when it's so easy.
> > do you have any views at all on the fact that BIA was marketed as "DDD", when it actually isn't, and never has been? < <Here's what I wrote five days before your latest revelation:
"I know that the original album artwork claimed that BIA was a "full digital recording," and everyone assumes that this means the multi was digital, but the assumption isn't fact. It could have been just the master that was digital."
You'd be more of a challenge if you paid attention, Martin.
> > but the assumption isn't fact. It could have been just the master that was digital." < <You used the word "could". So you were assuming too.
But I have now given you the "fact", as to how that digital master was arrived at, do you have any comment about that fact? Aren't you grateful that you now know -- especially after all these years of your speculation ;-)
We're still waiting for a useful contribution from you.
Martin, I don't really care about any of this. As I said several days ago, you are the only one who has something to prove.
. . . I've just deleted my last comment to you. I think avoiding eachother's posts / threads is probably the best policy from now on.
You really should have thought of the concept of civility back on 9 April 2005, when I asked you to stop escalating your petty aggression. I clearly stated that your continuing to do so would return us to the bad old days. You chose to ignore that request in favor of frivolous invective.Given your penchant for reprehensible behavior, the fact that your word means nothing, and the coarse, childish language you used in the post you deleted (which I did see, BTW), why would you think that I should acquiesce to a pretense of civility just because you come unglued when I post on your threads?
I tried to fix this situation between us once before. I provided you a public apology and a gentlemens' agreement, which I stuck to, even in the face of some snide comments and veiled barbs from you while it was in effect. You threw it all away in the interest of taking a cheap shot. Was it worth it?
If you want the current situation to be resolved, it is YOUR TURN to do something about it. Unlike you, I can be reached through Asylum email, which is where this kind of message should have been in the first place. If you want to fix it, if you are high-minded enough, you can email me, and we'll discuss whether there can be a resolution. If you can't bring yourself to do it, it will be clear where you stand on the concepts of civility and small-mindedness.
I owe you nothing.
How about you both just admit you are agumentative little a_holes and go away??
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