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In Reply to: Foolish DualDisc Cheerleader, why has it taken you so long to figure this out? posted by racerguy on June 15, 2005 at 10:12:46:
I know that you are extremely disappointed , humiliated , and embarrassed . ... And , you should be .LOL
Your beloved SACD is DeadDisc .
I now have YOU crying an ocean of tears 24/7 , and that makes me ...
LOL
ZS KEKL
P.S. I expect that you will be making another of your usual crybaby posts , as your followup .
LOL
Follow Ups:
Answer: Nothing. You desperately tried to come up with an answer, but couldn't think of anything else but old news and irrelevant trivia.You're really grasping at straws now. It's sad to see you in such despair.
Please don't let me stop you from coming up with some other useless, immaterial tidbit though. It's quite amusing.
LOL
LOLYou said that DualDisc was going to fail , and that it had failed .
Of course , you were wrong . Instead of failing , DualDisc has achieved some very good sales success , and Billboard chart success .
LOL
And now , the new Foo Fighters album has been released on DualDisc with DVD-A .I see that my most recent prediction was correct ... 100% correct . I said that you would make a crybaby followup post . And , that's exactly what you posted . You posted your tears .
LOL
I now predict that you will continue to cry an ocean of tears , and you will make more crybaby followup posts .
Completely Humiliated SACD cheerleader , I am certain that I will be correct again , because you ... can't stop crying .
LOL
ZS KEKL
Just my observation. But on the otherhand you have always been a crybaby cheerleader first with DVD-Audio and now DualDisc.You are boosting about BMG releasing one new DualDisc with a high resolution DVD-Audio by someone I never even heard of "Foo Fighters". Yet BMG just announce 10 additional fantastic titles in the RCA Living Stereo SACD series.
Why can't enjoy high rez in the format it is released in? This is not a war or a football gave.
My first choice is always SACD, but if it is not on SACD I will get the DVD-Audio.
Teresa
------- You are boosting about BMG releasing one new DualDisc with a high resolution DVD-Audio by someone I never even heard of "Foo Fighters". ------Just because you've never heard of them, doesn't mean it's not a major release.
I like those RCA discs very much, but the Foo Fighters will outsell all those RCA discs combined by an extremely large margin... and that's with the RCA discs being priced ALOT cheaper than the FF release.
Like it or not, you have to admit that DVD-Audio has a much better chance of penetrating the mainstream consumers than SACD.
If mainstream doesn't bother you at all, and you prefer to stick with classical, jazz and more "obscure" (for the lack of a better term) music then it's fine - but why respond to the thread. Just ignore ZS altogether.
And this could explain why a minority of DualDiscs have DVD-Audio content as this format is aimed at illegal downloaders. Giving them extra content so they will quit stealing their music on the internet. I personally feel the illegal downloaders will continue to steal, but that is just my personal opinion.My problem with ZS is he seems to use Sales Figures determine the music he listens to rather than picking music he actually likes. And I guess my quest is to cure him of that.
Happy listening,
Teresa
Marketing is real and the powers that be have decreed: "mainstream consumers and audiophiles are two entirely different set of listeners"This has nothing to do with me at all. This is marketing.
---- My problem with ZS is he seems to use Sales Figures determine the music he listens to rather than picking music he actually likes. And I guess my quest is to cure him of that. -----Well going by many of your posts in the past, it would seem like you use the quality of soncis to determine what kind of music you listen to as opposed to the quality of music.
And you have to realize that there are alot of audiophiles who aren't restricted to a specific genre. I love classical and jazz, but will also listen to Wilco, Pete Yorn, Aimee Mann, Fiona Apple, Coldplay, etc on (try not to faint) CD and MP3. The music is more important than the format it's on.
With all it's faults, DualDisc looks to have a decent amount of success. ZS just likes to rub that in the face of SACD listeners for some reason. Why battle him every time he posts? It just gives him a reason to post in this fashion in the future.
Leave now Dave555, I know who you are and have reported you. Take your bald face lies with you.You will not destroy my good name,
You very mean man,
Teresa
You *really* have your nose in the air. I am by all means an audiophile: Mainstream pop kiddies don't have tube amps and an XA777ES or a 3910.You've been getting more and more disconnected. I can't *wait* until there's more Pink Floyd on Hi-Rez to listen to over my '777 and HD650's.
There are ABSOLUTELY audiophilic qualities in MANY "mainstream" recordings which -you- may consider dreck, simply because they aren't the "acceptedly refined" genre of jazz or classical.
Personally, the Living Stereo releases to me are DREADFULLY boring. But if ANYTHING, I'm an audiophile.
This characterization that ALL rock/classic rock/pop/electronica is ALWAYS overcompressed and simplistic is complete *bull*. Yes there's a LOT that is, but it is in NO way universally bad.
I have no idea if the Foo Fighters recording is any good. Remember however that Nirvana's "Nevermind" was released on an MFSL Gold Disc which I have to say is *VERY* good -- even if you don't have a *taste* for the style of music.
The buck doesn't stop with you Teresa. As I said, you're attacking in the wrong way because once again you've proven yourself to be the 'fruitcake' to KEKL's 'cheez whiz'.
KEKL says "lol sacd is dead because Foo Fighters got released", and you reply with "Well, US SACD PEOPLE don't CARE about anything but classical and jazz!"
Shove it. Speak for yourself, not for others. You are not the only true audiophile. Now I don't think KEKL is an audiophile at all, but even if you don't want to broaden your horizons (I have: I'm a rock fan who's getting into jazz..) - don't act like nobody else can get beyond the stupid 'stigma of the genre'.
Listening to classical and jazz does not automatically make you refined. Listening to rock or pop does not automatically make you tasteless.
like it or not:"mainstream consumers and audiophiles are two entirely different set of listeners"
This is the way it has always been and will likely always be.
And wanting more Pink Floyd is not something you have to worry about in our audiophile formats as "geezer rock" is quite popular with audiophiles.
My opinions are just that, my opinions. I love what I love because I love it not because it sells well and someone else told me I should love it. This is all I am trying to get across to ZS KEKL is that it doesn't matter at all what the rest of the world listens to what is important is that what you listen to is what you enjoy. When he learns to enjoy music for music he will be much happier and not post the hateful posts he posts.
And that is all I am saying,
Teresa
... And if you listen to both, you're simply in 'two demographics'?Get real Teresa. When I listen to DSOTM on my 3910, that is not a "crossover experience", it's an audiophile one.
You are not the Queen of Sound.
And it has nothing to do with me. Just look at Audiophile recordings, they are mostly acoustic Jazz, Classical, Folk and Classic Rock that is of better than average sound quality. And I am not the who chooses audiophile releases. If you are unhappy with what they choose don't yell at me, take it up with the record companies.And it told you DSOTM has always been an audiophile recording, even the original Harvet UK issue.
Go back and re-read my post.
I am not the one who makes these decisions, so leave me out, OK?
Teresa
I think I'll spread that around work (big audio company...where you'd be surprised how few audiophiles there are. Not just my company, many of them)
based upon what label they are on. But an audiophile release is any release on any label that sounds good period.HP in Absolute Sound had many items on his Super Disk lists that are not on audiophile labels and are in such diverse musical categories as electronic (Kraftwerk) and many varieties of rock, including a band I never liked much, Rough Trade. In the 80s, his magazine ran a long survey of 45 RPM dance singles. Currently Hi FI Plus regularly reviews rock releases and gives them high marks for audiophile sound quality.
So just because you limit the categories of audiophile music to suit your own tastes does NOT mean that well known and respected audiophiles share your own limited views.
There are three types of audiophile recordings:1) Original Audiophile Recordings Recordings made with high-end equipment and as few microphones as possible and little or no mixing, with no EQ and nothing artifical added. Chesky, Sheffield Lab, Telarc, Delos are examples of this type.
2) Audiophile re-mastered Recordings Recordings orignally made my major labels using who knows what type of equipment, tons of mixing and EQ'ed to hell. The trick is to try to make these major label recordings sound as good as recordings that start out as audiophile recordings. Examples of these are MFSL, DCC, Audio Fidelity, etc.
3) Audiophile approved Recordings These are recordings that generally are made to sound realistic. Examples of these are RCA Living Stereo, Mercury Living Presence, early EMI, early Decca, the Cat Stevens albums, and others on the HP's super disc list.
I don't have limited views as these are what I deem as audiophile recordings. Do I buy all of them? Of course not, I don't musically like all of them and I try to buy what I think I will like. We cannot buy everything that would be impossible.
Teresa
There are also recordings that don't fit into any of your categories that sound great. One of the best sounding recordings I have ever heard is Kraftwerk's The Mix on LP. This does not fit into any of your categories, but it is one of my personal reference audiophile recordings. As far as I know, it has never been officially approved, I approve it with my own ears. And there are many other examples.
in the long run the only ones that count. Afterall we are the ones who listen to the music we choose.Happy listening,
Teresa
and I have sold a lot of Telarc Jazz SACDs I didn't care for the music after a few listens.Also with classical we have SO many choices. For example there are over 100 versions of Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition, I have heard myself at least 15 versions and I prefer the Fritz Reiner conducting the Chicago Symphony on RCA Living Stereo and I get what I feel is the best performance and the best sound. So I ask you what is wrong with that?
Teresa
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