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In Reply to: how come you guys have so many more releases in the UK for DVD-A and DD disks?? posted by NonA on September 07, 2004 at 12:34:49:
As for the Kasabian disc, see my comment:
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/dvda/messages/15388.htmlAlso, note that the video side of the Kasabian is in PAL, not NTSC. That could be a problem in the US, unless your DVD player can read and convert PAL to NTSC in realtime, prior to sending the signal to your TV.
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btw, you guys make some Bloody great audio gear in the Bloody UK...i cant seem to find a way to Bloody escape it! ;-).Sorry, for some reason my work has brought me into contact with a few Brits et al. Very nice fellows too!
unless they know what they are doing. A computer can play, no problem. Not all DVD players can play PAL. If you have a DVD player that plays PAL, it may put out PAL or an NTSC conversion. Most TVs can only play NTSC. So even if the DVD player puts out PAL, the TV may not play it. And then there is the whole Region 1/Region 2 problem. Unless people have made an effort to set up a system that plays PAL disks, this will probably only be playable on a computer.
Off topic, but I heard a great acronym for NTSC a while back:-
"Never The Same Color twice". :-)I must say, what we get TV images here in the UK of footage shot in the US (i.e. NTSC), suddenly all the peoples' faces (like the NBC / FOX newsreaders, or BBC correspondents based in Washington etc.) are rendered in a strange blurry pinky complexion which you never get with a PAL source).
but a properly calibrated NTSC monitor should do fine on color. Like most other things in life, NTSC and PAL are a trade-off. PAL has higher resolution, more pixels, but it also runs at a slower frame rate than NTSC. So a high dynamic video may actually be better on NTSC. I have a very fine computer monitor that plays both and I don't see a real huge difference. PAL resolution carries the day for me, but it's not major. I would suggest you need a monitor that plays both to really do a fair comparison, the PAL/NTSC conversion, just like the NTSC/PAL conversion, has any number of potential pitfalls that can degrade the result.
My Sony Wega 16:9 TV (100Hz refresh rate) plays both NTSC and PAL. My DVD player can cross-covert to and from both formats, but I let my TV do all the conversion and scaling automatically. This approach also eliminates judder with NTSC (and PAL) as it digitally interpolates the sequence of frames to fill the 100Hz frame buffer, and 3:2 pulldown becomes a non-issue.(b.t.w. The TV is internally a progressive scan monitor.)
I don't completely understand. If your TV plays both formats, why should you be doing any conversion in the DVD player at all. Why not just output and play them in their native formats? Anyway, you probably don't get too many NTSC DVDs in any case, just as in the U.S., we don't get too many PAL. And then there is the whole Region 1/Region 2 issue. Any PAL disks that I can play on my computer need to be region free. Thought about going for multiregion DVD player, but decided it is not worth the money for the few PAL disks that I might acquire. Big cost difference: a Toshiba DVD player, customized for multiregion, is 4 x the price of the same player before customization.
Any PAL disks that I can play on my computer need to be region free. Thought about going for multiregion DVD player, but decided it is not worth the money for the few PAL disks that I might acquire. Big cost difference: a Toshiba DVD player, customized for multiregion, is 4 x the price of the same player before customization.The whole "customized" multi-region player thing is a big scam and a rip-off. You can buy a Philips DVD727 DVD player for $50-60. It will play both PAL and NTSC discs, and will convert PAL to NTSC in the player if your TV is NTSC-only. And it even does a good job of it. Region setting can be changed from the remote control. You can set the player to be region-free, or enter in the region number you want. No hardware mods, no gimmicks.
I've seen the DVD727 advertised by the modders as "customized" to do this, for $200-250 dollars. All they do is pull the unit out of the box and enter in the code to change it from Region 1 to Region 0.
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> > If your TV plays both formats, why should you be doing any conversion in the DVD player at all. Why not just output and play them in their native formats? < <Sorry, I did not make myself clear. I have not elected to convert in the DVD player (a PAL disc is output as PAL, and a NTSC disc is output as NTSC.) So I do output the disc in its native format (and use the TV to convert on-the-fly).
I.M.O. they should make all displays multi-format (the US included).
I suppose it's easier to do in a PAL region, because TVs must have a more scanlines to begin with.
. . . you folks are getting HDTV broadcasts -- I saw a demo recently in an Atlanta shopping mall, and I can say it knocks the socks off either PAL or NTSC.All our digital satellite DTV programming is based on using 4:3 or 16:9 PAL, and there are no plans to increase the UK airwave bandwidth to accommodate HDTV (unless a cable firm comes to the rescue). Otherwise, the only way us Brits will get it is through some sort of high density optical disc.
I can watch both PAL and NTSC discs without any problems on either.
As for DVD movies, I tend to only watch PAL because the line resolution is higher (and, of course, they are available locally).
I suspect your media source is doing an NTSC-PAL conversion before broadcast or cablecast, and that's the source of your difficulties, not "NTSC" per se.
Probably yes, but there must have been a reason for that (quite common) NTSC acronym I mentioned. I certainly notice that live American TV (when I go there) always looks rather smudgy compared to a live PAL broadcast in the UK.
...although the problem has nothing to do with NTSC itself. I am running three DVD players and two receivers through a RGB switch box - one of them is a code 1 machine with the problem you describe. However, with a direct SCART RGB connection (Harman Kardon DVD player to Philips TV) picture quality is as excellent as from PAL sources.
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