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This software (DVD_Audio) is very limited but interesting.It accepts 44.1khz 16bit WAV files and output them into PCM 48/96 kHz, 16/20/24 bits , MP1 48kHz 320/352/384/416/448 kbps ,MP2 48kHz 192/224/256/320/384 kbps formats (I am not familiar with MP1 and MP2). And resulting disc will play in a regular DVD player, (as opposed to DVD-Audio.)
First off I dont understand the point of outputting 16/44.1 CD audio into output 24bits/96khz?
BUT I can see one nice application for this. I have been trying to merge box set classical CDs into one single DVD-R, so I can listen to an entire musical event in one go. But the problem is DVD players will not play disks made by simply burning WAV into DVD-R.
I think I will give this a try.
Follow Ups:
...will do the same - I just converted a 44.1/16 file to 96/24 in a couple minutes. Now I gotta burn it on a DVD and see how it sounds. Who knows, maybe it'll improve things, I'll find out tonite...-rw-
Interesting--please keep us informed of you experience with this software.townsend
Will do, I will download the trial version and post my thoughts.The price of 49.99 Euro is a little steep for a single purpose product.
Does anyone know of similar but cheaper shareware that can burn music DVDs playable on DVD players?
Interesting discussions in Hydrogenaudio about the rhymes and reasons of "upsampling".
Interesting discussions in Hydrogenaudio about the rhymes and reasons of its "upsampling" scheme.
The upsampling part doesn't look so great :)Actually, it doesn't mean that it doesn't sound better. I have also experienced that the same redbook at native resolution on a CD and upsampled to 48k on a DVD sounds better on some DVD players.
Best
Eric
Music Lover,This is an interesting software, especially for people who don't have a DVD-Audio player (DVD-A accepts 16/44.1 without resampling anything, and cost only $99 now).
It doesn't seem to accept 24/96 PCM, that's a problem. I'm quite sure there's a lot more cheap / free software to make 24/96 DVDs (DADs) on the way, because there have been a lot of discussions on Hydrogenaudio, Doom9, etc about these issues.
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Eric
Eric,Do you know of any cheap shareware that can help burn 44.1Khz WAV files and into DVD-R Media and playable on a standard DVD drive?
I have been looking for such software.
DVD+Audio seems promising but seems a lot of Euros for such basic software.
Hello Music Lover,As you may know, DVD specs do not allow for 44.1k, so that's not possible, you need to resample to 48k. As for software for making music DVDs (DADs), you may want to check in the archives, because there have been many useful threads by Mathias Myrka, NotMe, and a few others.
I think 49 Euros is not very expensive compared with other DVD authoring software.. if it works.
If you want to investigate DVD-Audio, you need a special player, but you won't have to resample your files, no need to worry about video content, and it's easy as 1, 2, 3.
You can author and burn up to 7 hours of CD music in about 1.5 hours.Just make sure what you really want is not a good CD changer :)
Best
Eric
Thanks for your quick reply. I will search this forum for such info.Actually I do have a Pioneer DV-47A that plays DVD-Audio but I am not trying to burn DVD-Audio. I am only looking to burn a set of CDs together for listening in one go.
> If you want to investigate DVD-Audio
> ....................., but you won't
> have to resample your files, no need to
> worry about video content, and it's easy
> as 1, 2, 3. You can author and burn up to
> 7 hours of CD music in about 1.5 hours.Could you elaborate on that? I tried burning standard WAVs into a DVD-R and my Pioneer Universal player won't play it.
(I heard about a DVD-Audio authoring software too but it was thousands of dollars I believe.)
There's only two options so far: DVD-Video (48k and 96k), or DVD-A (any standard resolution). I guess what I was trying to say is that you can just drag and drop your CD files in a DVD-Audio structure, and it will work like a gigantic CD.Minnetonka Audio's discWelder Bronze is due this month and many people are waiting for it, as it allows you to burn any standard resolution, including CD, on a DVD-Audio.
It has been announced at $99, which is about 80 Euros, I think :)Unfortunately, I'm not sure you can take full advantage of home-made DVD-Audio discs with your Pioneer, it may choke on discs that have too many tracks in a single group (or at least you should check with Minnetonka before you buy it because they were looking for a fix for that).
Eric
Eric,What software would I use to drag and drop CD files into a DVD-Audio structure? Will it work with DVD writing software like Roxio or Nero?
Or did you mean using discWelder?
The "DVD+Audio" software I introduced in this thread will work, I tried the trial software, it worked with a very flacky web based interface. But it does not provide functionality like ripping tracks from CDs or DVD Writing software. I think $40 is overpriced for something that looks decidedly shareware.
John
Sorry for not being clear, I meant using discWelderIf you use DVD-V software, you will need to resample your files, or let the authoring software do it. If you do that, it's probably wise to do the resampling through a real audio software (like Audition, etc), and make a comparison with the resampled files of your DVD authoring software, because some of them do it in a quick and dirty way.
If you need a DVD-Audio test disc to check your player compatibility, get in touch with me (your profile does not allow emails)
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Eric
Eric,Thanks for your kind offer and explanations.
I believe my "Universal" Pioneer DV-47A (or 747A in the US) is quite compatible with DVD-Audio. I have a dozen or so DVD-A disks and they all play fine. Or are there more compatibility issues I need to worry about?
Regarding re-sampling software from 44.1 to 48Khz, I believe you mentioned Audition which is a standalone audio editing product. Would general purpose products like Nero or Roxio do a decent job? Or are there good shareware out there? I cannot afford to buy a dedicated Audio editing product, as you can see I am an audio amateur.
John
Music Lover,there is an issue with Pioneer players (first generation, I believe), so you may want to check the archives. Some models refuse to play more than 32 (sometimes less) tracks in a single group. This is not an issue with commercial discs (which have fewer than 30 tracks in a group), this is only a problem with home made discs (if you stuff 7 CDs in a disc, you are likely to exceed that limit, this is why I'm warning you about this). Some players also have the problem, and some don't (Denon, Panasonic, Toshiba, maybe others)
As for Audition, all I'm saying is that you ought to compare the result of a standalone audio app for resampling vs the built-in resampling function of some software. I don't remember if Roxio and Nero do that, I only use DVD-Architect for making music DVDs, because it's so simple. But I use Cool Edit Pro (now called Adobe Audition) to do all the upsampling first, and author those files. It's work, but there's a batch feature in CEP which makes it possible to do it at night or during your work day.
I remember reading that there's good shareware for resampling, you have to look around, a good starting point is Doom9, hydrogenaudio, etc.
I hope this helps
Eric
Thanks Eric, you have been a great help!the 32 songs limit seems like a pretty bad limitation. That further un-justify my purchase of any professional disc making software to try-out. I will wait for some cheaper alternative to surface.
I do know that the 30 tracks limitation does not apply to DVD audio. I have this truly magnificient disc (Bach Magnificat, see link, highly recommended) that has 52 tracks of true heaven.
They were grouped into individual tracks. It is an endless list of wonderful music, all 2.5 hours of it.Could the limitations mentioned for this unit be for DVD-Video tracks only?
Sorry, didn't see your responseNo the limitation is for DVD-A tracks. But if you can access each of the 52 tracks individually within a single Group, then it means there is a way around this problem and it depends on the authoring.
In any event, there should be no problem with DVD-Video discs
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Eric
Can you actually access each of the individual tracks on the listing or are they grouped into larger sections like "movements"
(I don't remember my EMI titles, which I have lent to a friend, but the Teldec titles that I have are grouped into movements)Best
Eric
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