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In Reply to: RE: ""It's a fricking computer!"" posted by Sordidman on August 22, 2016 at 12:34:25
A computer is a device that can be instructed to carry out an arbitrary set of arithmetic or logical operations automatically. Their ability of computers to follow a sequence of operations, called a program, make computers very flexible and useful. Such computers are used as control systems for a very wide variety of industrial and consumer devices. This includes simple special purpose devices like microwave ovens and remote controls, factory devices such as industrial robots and computer assisted design, but also in general purpose devices like personal computers and mobile devices such as smartphones.You called the ARM processor board a "system." You use this as a tool to denigrate the importance of the other hardware involved.
As stated earlier the ARM processor is defined as a System on a Chip (SoC) and the ARM board a System on a Module (SoM). Go look it up on the SolidRun website and elsewhere.
I didn't denigrate the importance of the other hardware in the mRendu. I like my mRendu. In fact I said it was clever design with a good amount of engineering behind it. But this is not always the case as many manufacturers do little more than stuff an off the shelf board in a fancy case. I credit the mRendu team with going the extra mile in this regard.
You cannot "use" the processor board without an OS, input/output as described in the above def.
It runs a commonly available OS called Linux. I already stated that. The user input/output is in the form of a web browser user interface (BUI) on your networked PC/Mac served up by an open source (most likely apache) web server running under Linux on the mRendu ARM processor. Additionally, the mRendu input is the Ethernet network, the output is USB.
I can' help it if you are too dense to understand or simply enjoy arguing over what most folks acknowledge as fact.
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""As stated earlier the ARM processor is defined as a System on a Chip (SoC) and the ARM board a System on a Module (SoM). Go look it up on the SolidRun website and elsewhere.""
I have: NXP-Freescale iMX6 Family based products... chips.
The stripped down Linux OS is in the SD card on the microRendu. Are you saying that there is a legitimate running version of Linux on the ARM board?
""I can' help it if you are too dense to understand or simply enjoy arguing over what most folks acknowledge as fact.""
LOL, most folks don't know either way, and you're trying to bamboozle them by asserting something that only YOU erroneously attempt to assert, - beyond reason & logic.
""I didn't denigrate the importance of the other hardware in the mRendu. I like my mRendu. In fact I said it was clever design with a good amount of engineering behind it. But this is not always the case as many manufacturers do little more than stuff an off the shelf board in a fancy case. I credit the mRendu team with going the extra mile in this regard.""
I do not have any issue with what you say above, it's not what you implied earlier in the thread though....
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I have: NXP-Freescale iMX6 Family based products... chips.
The ARM processor chip IS a System on a Chip (SoC) and when it is placed on a board with RAM and other components it's called a System on a Module (SoM). The headers on the SoM are what couple it to the Swenson designed carrier board that contains voltage regulators, USB hub, crystal oscillator, Ethernet port, USB port.
Why do you argue this point when you can look it up for yourself? Or do you not understand the slight distinction?
The stripped down Linux OS is in the SD card on the microRendu. Are you saying that there is a legitimate running version of Linux on the ARM board?
Yes, of course!
Man, you need to get educated on basic computers 101. Yes the SD card holds the OS and software code but it boots and executes (runs) on the ARM processor. As an aside, the OS could have been flashed to the ARM's own internal NVRAM but their design choice was to place it on the SD card. One advantage there is that if the OS/software gets corrupted or ever needs updating you don't send the entire mRendu back, you simply insert a new SD card.
LOL, most folks don't know either way, and you're trying to bamboozle them by asserting something that only YOU erroneously attempt to assert, - beyond reason & logic.
Most folks get it. I'm not bamboozling anyone, but those who can't grasp basic principles may think they are being bamboozled.
Don't you have a job? Is this all you do all day> If not why don't you apply for Stereophile. You certainly fancy our self a (pseudo) reviewer.
Hmm, why don't you ask Sordidman the same question?
If you follow these 'arguments' with an open mind rather than kissing up to your buddy all the time, you might learn something. Or maybe not. That's fine.
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