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In Reply to: RE: Why Compact Discs Sound Great posted by tube524 on May 18, 2016 at 15:56:58
CDs sound great if you overlook the fact they sound flat, dull, irritating, lifeless, rolled off, bass shy, congealed, two dimensional, honky, metallic, like paper mâché, limpid, synthetic, thin, generic, compressed, unmusical and uninvolving.
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Bit depth too little for good hifi reproduction.
Stated clear at the Audacity site for bit depth, they say that 24 bit only records background noise in addition, so where are the background and harmonics and low level signal's gone at 16 bit ?
I.m.o. CD's are not real Hi-Fi. Too much loss of minor detail.
Too much loss of detail on CDs? Well, sure, if you're playing your CDs straight out of the jewel box and play them on untweaked electronics. Duh!
So only 32 bit recordings can reproduce minor details's ?
(from Audacity website)
16-Bit
16-bit matches audio CDs, and is thus suited where the better dynamic range and S/N ratio of CD quality audio is required. 16-bit is a good general purpose high quality setting. 16-bit recording is suitable for vinyl records.
24-Bit
24-bit recording may be used for signals that will be manipulated but still need to maintain the full 16-bit quality of CD audio. 24-bit is good for mastering.
If you're merely listening to thousands of pounds of expertly chosen high end audio kit, and not doing large amounts of editing, there may be no real reason to exceed 24-bit depth.
32-Bit
If you want or need the highest standards (for example, operate a recording studio), expect to do a large amount of manipulation of the data before export, and have audio source equipment with an extremely low noise floor, 32-bit recording (which is the default setting in Audacity) will give the best possible quality and avoid the bit depth having any effect on the sound even after heavy manipulation of the audio.
Finding audio sources capable of providing signals with better dynamic range than 24-bit resolution is a demanding task. A 32-bit data stream records 65,000 times the dynamic range of 16-bit CD audio. In real world applications, a lot of those bits will be normally recording nothing but very low level background noise.
Uh, I think we have a bad connection. I never said what you appear to be attributing to me. Not even close. But don't let that stop you. Be my guest.
Edits: 05/22/16
Yes, these are the magic words. You need a serious computer with tweaks to use HQplayer playing upsampling to DSD256 or DSD512.....but the results, according to those that have listened...is quite outstanding. Please read what Quadman has to say:http://www.head-fi.org/t/780385/gustard-x20-dac/615
If you read a few pages further you will see Quadman got DSD256 upsampling to work in the Gustard giving even better sound.
Basically, he says the upsampled 16/44 sounds better than his $20,000 turntable with $5000 cartridge.....not bad considering the DAC is $1300 and his computer/player and jitter reducers and programs are around $1600.
Edits: 05/18/16
I use Daphile Linux OS to upsample to DSD 128 the current limit to my DACs firmware, I can upgrade to 256, however listening through the DAC I find PCM more warm and inviting, that is DXD FWIW.
There are the PCM camp and the DSD camp.
And the great thing is most all good DACs will do both.
HQplayer is suppose to have way better sounding DSD upsampling than any other player. And the higher you upsample the better. This is the magic.....please research. Please read the last paragraphs in this article:
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/699-high-end-munich-2016-words/
Also, please read all the comments starting at the bottom of the page for more info on this revolutionary software.
I am very familiar with HQplayer, it is by far the easiest implementation of something that can sound good and "just work".
Cd and SACD sounds very fine, to my ears.
And religion rears its ugly head in the forum.
"To Learn Who Rules Over You, Simply Find Out Who You Are Not Allowed to Criticize."
-Voltaire
Religion? Are you high?
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