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In Reply to: RE: Another case where posted by Isaak J. Garvey on April 13, 2016 at 16:46:56
First, the labels ARE selling master quality downloads, through Pono, HDTracks, Qobuz, ProStudioMasters, etc. Are you uninformed about this?I have purchased many through those channels. If you consider covering perhaps 1% of the musical catalog "wide support", then we agree.
My day job is supply chain management. Providing the ability to download everything is they key. It's the infrastructure they use which could be instantly converted to any high resolution format. Using people to pick, pack and ship physical media that must be inventoried is a costly and failed model. All one has to do is view the latest RIAA statistics.
edit: Unfortunately, for the vast majority of music I purchase, I must purchase and rip CDs - used where possible since I never use the CD once I've ripped the content.
Edits: 04/13/16Follow Ups:
The latest stastistics I saw now show streaming as the #1 money maker. Cds were at the bottom of the list
Alan
that the writing is on the wall for physical media in the music industry. It's simply too costly and inflexible from a supply chain POV vs downloads.
In time, that will be the case with video as well, but since the bandwidth requirements are so much higher, that will take more time. Ripping a Blu Ray results in 25-40 GB files. :)
Physical media is by far the #1 form of consumption in Japan and a few other countries. Japan is the second larges market on the planet the US of course being #1. I travel to Japan twice yearly and the CD shops are enormous and packed with young people.Streaming has failed there. Spotify just aborted plans to expand in Japan. I know this for a fact as one of my long time friends works there.
Edits: 04/18/16
What does your friend in Japan have to say about it?
My friend does not live in Japan. They work for Spotify in London. The Japanese market has been a dismal failure. They could not get consumers to sign up for accounts. They tried everything.
Wrap your head around this. Tower Records, which famously went bust here in the US, has 85 stores in Japan. Several of which I visited last year..multi floor monoliths.
On top of that, licensing for streaming is much more difficult. See this article.
Are the RIAA statistics that I previously quoted here limited to the US?
yes, and your point?
show us the data for Japan.
Sorry, you've already demonstrated how grossly inaccurate your shoot-from-the-hip *facts* are.
Don't ask me then..google is your friend.
You don't have the remotest clue as to the answer!
No surprise there. :)
You are full of shit. I know the EXACT numbers.
Get off your ass and do the research.
You claim my information is bogus, but want me to supply numbers.
You can't have it both ways chucky.
Why am I not surprised, Pearson was an impetuous, petty man. You learned from the best.
I know the EXACT numbersToo funny. Apparently providing a link is beyond your intellectual capability.
Understood.
You can't have it both ways chucky.
You have repeatedly demonstrated that you simply make up $hit to fit your mood.
Pearson was an impetuous, petty man
Yeah, that supports you continued lack of substantiation to anything you'd claimed. :)
edit: I'll do your work and put the world market into perspective :
"The biggest culprits for the fall were an 8.1% decline in revenues from physical format sales...
Another first for the industry in 2014 was that digital and physical music consumption contributed the same proportion of total revenues for the first time... "
The physical media ship is sinking...
Edits: 04/19/16
Ohhh kay..let's try this again.
You cannot allocate resources to a market, where there is no market.
Every single "high resolution" format has failed disasterously in the mainstream market. Like, were are talking the Titanic. SACD, DVD-A, you name it.
Even going back 30 years, boutique labels were the ones who were producing "master quality" LPs and CDs that sold a few thousand if it was a blockbuster..to the SAME 1% you refer to.
It is amazing how many times day I have to pop an audiophile bubble. My pin is getting dull.
Every single "high resolution" format has failed disasterously in the mainstream market.
And why do you think that was? The CD succeeded because EVERY piece of music was released on it. Let me say that agsin since you don't seem to appreciate the difference between 1 and 100.
DVD-A and SACD releases were spotty and token like the hi rez downloads today. Most of what you want is simply unavailable . It required special gear for playback. Today, even $99 DACs and smartphones support 24/88 or 24/96 ocntent. Duh.
It is amazing how many times day I have to pop an audiophile bubble.
And are utterly clueless as to economic failure of continuing to milk physical media. Switching over to downloads would reduce cost substantially and there is effectively no additional cost in providing the original master vs. some downsampled compromise as we find today.
If you're part of the music industry, it is easy to understand the failure the RIAA reports.
You can split hairs, rationalize, and be as idealistic as you want to be it won't change the facts.99% of the music buying public do not care, or know the difference.
No business can sustain itself catering to a small group... the 1%.
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99% of the music buying public do not care, or know the difference.
Why then do the geniuses in the music industry still produce and distribute CDs if MP3 downloads are "good enough"?
They piss away resources that could be better leveraged. It's apparent they simply don't give a $hit - and whine about the state of the market.
Again cd sales (in the US) are behind streaming and downloads
Alan
when consumers observe the obvious - and those actually in the industry demonstrate (vociferously) they are utterly clueless.
Go figure.
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