|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
24.251.171.108
In Reply to: RE: someone would have created a business to do that already. posted by mkuller on August 11, 2015 at 18:31:27
It's funny that I have dealt with a fair number of onboard computer sound chips - since I have assembled myself desktops that we had and listen on all the laptops etc - funny how they vary in sound a great deal and it seems to me the older motherboards tended to have better chips for this. Now they might offer 5.1 output but the quality is worse than ever - I mean onboard chips. I have one old unit from around year 2000 that sounds the best!
I would like to have the chance to listen to a file resolution comparison through a consistent high quality system - and even listen beyond CD res. I think low res files have certain "markers" of bad quality - like you say - but also just a certain "thinness" to the aural picture often noticeable in a high end that sound shrill and peaky - like in the reproduction of cymbals in particular
But then on the other side, some of the modern music is so dynamically compressed to begin with - and very few "real" acoustic instruments to measure it up. You play it on a high end rig and you think "what's the point?" there's nothing there to bring out!
JaroTheWise
Follow Ups:
I think you have to look at file resolution with a grain of salt. Having a larger file size may or
may not actually give you the capability to hear more musicality from a recording ! There really is no definitive answers here !
The funny thing here is that the dynamic contrast of many CDs are much greater than you
would have believed they were if you simply listen to the same files from a hard drive or
even a CDr you've burned from those files.
In this case it's not a matter of increasing the file size but rearranging how the information is
being presented that has changed how the music is being resolved .
That being said I have a tweaked disc player I still enjoy but I listen to a lot of music from
my Auraliti PK100 that wasn't derived from High Rez files that I'm honestly not thinking about
what the file size might have been ( though I do some file modifications to these dBPoweramp ripped files in JRMC before dropping them onto a Hard Drive for play)
...the difference between MP3/AAC and CD - CD is 1,411kbps (kilobytes per second) where a AAC at 320kbps has removed 1,091kbps of information.
"...the difference between MP3/AAC and CD - CD is 1,411kbps (kilobytes per second) where a AAC at 320kbps has removed 1,091kbps of information."
Incorrect. The actual amount of information removed is no more than about 530 kbps.
The original CD has 1411 kbps of data per second, but much of this data is redundant. For virtually all audio tracks the effective amount of information is no more than 60% of the raw data, as evidenced by the ability of lossless CODECs such as FLAC to recover all the information in the original file with a data rate no more than about 850 kbps.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
..the music always sounds better and more involving on my big rig even the worst recorded, most compressed CDs.
That seems logical and I would mostly agree but I listened recently to some music of my wife's that is so "artificial" in terms of the instruments being played and then mastered in the modern "loudness" way, that I had to laugh to myself at how little it showcased my new setup - whereas older originally analog things played on "real" instruments just comes alive and shines
what I mean is that playing "music" like that on a high end rig is like asking Michelangelo to draw you a stick man as an example of great art LOL
JaroTheWise
He,he,he..... You keep SQ challenged CDs ?
Fortunately, I've been a Recording Label conscious music buyer for as long as I can remember, but I guess it depends on the music genres you normally listen to how that works for you !
Playing mediocre recordings would be like eating something from my refrigerator I shouldn't
have put there in the first place !
I think I just used that metaphor in a different form before reading this but while I agree that good recordings are a much greater pleasure to hear on a high end rig, then I also try not to fall into the hole of not playing things that are not that dynamic - thinking here of some older jazz recordings - or recently listened to some Django Reinhardt that was pretty bad from a recording perspective but there is no alternative really
Or even some late 80s CDs I have are quite lousy but it might be all there is unless they remaster a new release
JaroTheWise
...the recording is secondary.
I agree. To many people including me at times are listening to the sound of there system and not to music
Alan
I never implied that I listened for SQ satisfaction reasons first., but there really isn't
any "exclusiveness" between good music that is also well recorded.
I've never played the "Audiophile" game of listening to "Sonic Spectacullar" sound bytes,
I spend countless hours listening to various Symphonic works, or an hour or two listening
to contemporary Singer/Songwriters.or other works that convey some type of thoughtful
artistic endeavor to develop. If I fail to find some type of "muse" in what I listen to , it holds
no interest for me.
It positively is all about the "music" for me ,but my musical interests don't move much further
than what satifies my criteria of what is musical to myself !
I laugh when I read or hear this mantra over and over - that the music is first. I think everyone is honest with this but let's face it that this hobby is not in essence about only the music itself - as content - since you could listen on a complete crap system and still follow the essential gist of the music.
I even recall I had some friends years ago who had much bigger music collections than I did, and it was remarkable how they didnt much feel compelled to need a good sound system to play it on - or perhaps faced with the prospect of dumping a couple thousand dollars in 1980 money toward something they would have bought a bunch more albums instead.
In some ways it's like a contagion, that once you hear high end then it can be a drag to go back to crap - but if you don't hear it much then it doesnt matter too much. But I dont like to hear that this hobby is "all about the music" because while the music is at the center of it then it is possible to be into music and read about it etc but listen at pathetic levels of fidelity
JaroTheWise
Post a Followup:
FAQ |
Post a Message! |
Forgot Password? |
|
||||||||||||||
|
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors: