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In Reply to: RE: cd quality posted by Todd Krieger on August 08, 2015 at 21:47:34
...I have all of the Beatles 2009 remasters in stereo and they are among the best recordings in my collection.
To me they sound the closest to master tape quality.
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About six years ago, I uploaded three versions of "Piggies" from the White Album. These are all uncompressed WAV ripped from the respective CDs.....
I just wonder if maybe we're listening to different releases that somehow sound different...... (You might have to adjust the volume, the Box Set versions are louder than the 1987 version.)
Mono Box Set Version
Stereo Box Set Version
Parlophone 1987 Version
I don't have good enough speakers on my computer yet to judge properly (soon to be fixed!), but I have all the Mono Box set, the new stereo White Album (thrift store find) and the 1987 Parlophone White Album. I never got around to comparing "Piggies", but I will try to get around to it this weekend!
Mostly when I listen to music, I just want to get into it and not listen critically to the sound. Good sound is icing on the cake for me. I friend just gave me a Janis Joplin Box Set and I really have been enjoying it.
Dave
...I compared numerous cuts from the originals to the 2009 remasters and they aren't close.
I also compared a few cuts of the 2007 remasters (Beatles 1) and they are closer to the 2009s than the originals.
Try Eleanor Rigby from Revolver (my favorite - listen on the strings) or Drive My Car from Rubber Soul or Ticket to Ride from Help.
I posted the track links because some of the people who preferred the Box Sets thought differently with these particular samples. I was just curious on your take.
"Eleanor Rigby" is the second track I would have used..... A third maybe "Norwegian Wood" from "Rubber Soul"...... Maybe I'll upload samples of these as well.
Once again, three tracks in uncompressed WAV......
I would do a "pick-em", but it's too obvious..... (I could also "normalize", but I think that in itself degrades sound quality.)
Mono Box Set Version
Stereo Box Set Version
1987 Version
...even though While My Guitar Gently Weeps and Norwiegan Wood are my two favorite Beatles songs, they are not necessarily the best ones to show the differences.
I've only compared with CDs on my big system.
My go to is Dr Ebbetts ...2nd would be the English LPs on my shelf...3rd, the Mono Box
"Eleanor Rigby" Ebbetts Version!!I like this recording better than the Box Sets, but not as much as the 1987.
For what it's worth, my 1987 CD copy of "Revolver" was "Made in the UK"..... I know there are other flavors, but don't know anything beyond that.
Edits: 08/13/15
I've been listening to the 24bit remasters for a couple of weeks. The resolution is there, but they cranked up the dynamic compression on Revolver, and all the others. The Beatles of all bands needs a wide dynamic range to bring out the full magnificence. It's tragic really. I wouldn't be surprised if you like some of your old CDs. They loose on resolution though.
The one "audiophile moment" I had with the 24bit remasters was the transition from "You Never Give Me Your Money" to "Sun King." There is a lot more going on there than I've ever heard before on any medium, vinyl included. The DR on Abbey Road seems to be better than Revolver, but not much.
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Personally, I'd prefer a 16 bit CD with the A/D straight from the original analog to 16 bit audio in a single conversion over a CD with the A/D from the original analog to 24 bits and then a second conversion to 16.
The roundabout point I was trying to make was that most pre 90s CDs even though they have many problems with the master used and primitive converters, still have superior DR, and are therefore worth keeping, and even listening to.
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Okay, makes sense.
I'll take the 24bit file with a 24bit player, or conversion to DSD. I'm enjoying hi res. If they would only ease up on the DR.
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