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In Reply to: RE: I had the same player... posted by kuma on June 22, 2015 at 00:18:43
What is meant by saying one CD player is less "rhythmic" than another? Can you give an example? I can't think of anything I've heard that I can relate to that adjective. Seems to me that the rhythm is in the music--and if the playback is reasonably clear, any listener should be able to hear it.
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rhythmic quality in any hardware/software! even, I think it's related to dynamics particularly micro aspect and possibly a short decay time of the note. In speaker realm, all frequency arriving at the same time without any delay.Sort of like a very exacting pianist with accurate and right on note delivery vs. someone a bit lazy with smeared notes. A split second timing lag between notes create less involving performance.
I don't know if any listener can hear it. But one is inclined ( particularly non audiophile types ) certainly can feel which performance is better. I observe that audiophiles generally too caught up in visual aspect of sound reproduction and have seen they entirely not getting it. Rhythmic quality is more of an intuitive impression than pointing out which player sis where so it is a bit difficult to *point out* what's happening.
When I first went through an infamous Linn's *tune dem*, I certainly didn't get it. Poor Linn dealer and the US rep. trying to teach me *follow the tune* method. ( this was Linn CD12 vs. Krell CDP demo )
A good example in CD player I could think of is to listen to a Krell CD player Vs. Naim CD player in succession in a same system. The former sounds a bit slower comparatively albeit I love both of my players.
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It's possible.I remember listening to the Roksan Caspian CD player several years back. I had been using a Sony DVP-9000ES player and when I swapped it out for the Kaspian I immediately noticed a different sonic presentation. The large dynamic swings in the music stood out in greater relief with the Kaspian in play. I suppose that the heftier power supply of the Caspian really made a difference in this case, but I'm really not sure. I can say that music immediately sounded more "rhythmic" with the Caspian, that's all.
So, the Sony excelled in soundstaging and transparency while the Roksan excelled in tonal richness and dynamics. I'm not sure which presentation is the more "accurate" of the two but that Roksan could swing a tune like no other CD player I've owned before or since.
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OK, I get that players can have better dynamics, soundstaging, and transparency. I replaced a Marantz CD-67SE II with a Marantz CD-5004 in my headphone-only system and noticed deeper bass and more transparency. I compared it to a Denon DVD-3109 and kept the improvements but with a less forward kind of sound.
But rhythm?? Is this referring to when there is enough current being generated to reproduce transients accurately and cleanly? I'm thinking all players will be essentially the same on this point due to pre-ringing, with the exception of those few players that have an adodizing filter...
I can only say that when the music is right and the dynamic contrasts in that music seem to be slightly accentuated (for whatever reason), "rhythmic drive" is one of the old audiophile terms that pops into my head.
YMMV, of course...
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