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In Reply to: RE: CD tweaks posted by Thorsten on June 17, 2015 at 09:13:23
There might be a small to medium-sized group of middle-aged people playing CDs for some time to come.
I'm not saying anyone cares about this, but I'm one of those touchy-feely people who like physical things and who plans on keeping some of those great sounding old vinyl and polycarbonate records out of the landfill.
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Hi,
Love Vinyl. I cut my Sound Engineer teeth on Tape and Vinyl.
Many great recordings that despite the 75dB (appx.) limit of LP put most Seedee (CD) recordings/remasters to shame for realism and dynamic range. Always wonder what these recordings would have sounded like on a Pacific Microsonic Model 2 in digital (176.4/24, no oversampling)...
Never got attached to Seedee's (CD's), ruddy bad sounding coffee coasters... If analogue goodness re-mastered for Seedee (CD), worse, I mean they managed to screw up Madonna, fer chrissake.
Though the original Dire Straights Tunnel of Love Album on Seedee beats the LP, narrowly, even early mother and stamper numbers.
The remastered versions are uniformly awefull (including LP) but the DSD sounds great (I usually dislike DSD a fair bit), so I kept the DSD and deleted the rest.
Yes, this is the album with the album where Mark Knopfler famously "makes a Schecter Custom Stratocaster hoot and sing like angels on a Saturday night, exhausted from being good all week and needing a stiff drink."
Which makes two of us, me and all the angels that can dance on the point of a needle. Okay three, my Girl also needs a drink, make it Wolf Blass (shoutout to a fellow ex-east german) directors selection Red all 'round.
If music has to be Deegeetaal (sounds like an aweful curry), can I have 176.4/24 recorded using Pacific Microsonic Model 2?
Seedee?
Who ever cared? I have around 30% of my music in Deegeetaal HD, the rest selected early Seedee pressing rips, Vinyl Rip etc. Of course it resides in a custom PeeSee (PC) with 9TB Raid 5 for music.
The PeeSee never sounds better than the source, but over a decade plus I figured how to make sure it sounds no worse.
Ciao T
At 20 bits, you are on the verge of dynamic range covering fly-farts-at-20-feet to untolerable pain. Really, what more could we need?
I never like them until my current DAC (Octave).
Hi,
I liked them since I got a Pioneer "Legato Link" DAC Equipped DVD Player, that played CD's in effect as Data disks (async) read and liked them even better when I made my first non-oversampling DAC (read a much earlier version of the same concept your DAC implements) using stacked TDA1543, which was like '98 or so...
I found switching to suitable software for playback (back then Winamp with Ochtan ASIO Plugin and an Asio Cable soundboard with SPDIF out) and ripping all my CD's to a Media Centre PC I had build primarily for TV/Movie use had no negative impact on sound quality. Moving from SPDIF to USB was the next step up.
Never bothered with seedee's ever since, except to rip.
Ciao T
At 20 bits, you are on the verge of dynamic range covering fly-farts-at-20-feet to untolerable pain. Really, what more could we need?
That's experience that I can trust, since you heard what many have not in terms of the NOS DACs. But I'm not ready to swap my disc spinner for a computer.
I suppose that after an EMP I will have those discs and records (but nothing with which to play them other than a pre-amp).
I guess I'm one of the lucky (unlucky?) ones who has never known a well-recorded standard CD to sound that much worse than any other format. I still prefer good old vinyl though.
Hi,
> I guess I'm one of the lucky (unlucky?) ones who has never known
> a well-recorded standard CD to sound that much worse than any
> other format.
Good on you. What you miss though is my point about re-mastering. But never mind.
> I still prefer good old vinyl though.
Well, forgive me please for being such a prick.
But if you never known "a well-recorded standard CD to sound that
much worse than any other format."
How could vinyl be preferrable?
Ciao T
At 20 bits, you are on the verge of dynamic range covering fly-farts-at-20-feet to untolerable pain. Really, what more could we need?
I said that I've "...never known a well-recorded standard CD to sound *that much worse* than any other format".I've listened to originals and some re-masters on vinyl, CD, SACD, DVD-A, HDCD, etc... Once again vinyl is often preferable to all others, but only slightly.
PS: You're not a "prick", or penis. Not a vagina or an anus either.
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Isn't this why the "memory players "were created?? The tonal saturation and lower distortion levels produced by these units was a revelation -to my ears.I wish that I had converted earlier.
Tom:cat
Of course, not everyone would consider "tonal saturation and lower distortion levels" to be on the order of a "revelation". "Slightly better", perhaps?
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