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Hi and sorry for the strange questions, but:
1) the bass out of a dac depends a lot on the transport or it is a dac characteristic mostly ? i mean, Wadia dacs are famous for the very strong bass. This character is maintained also after changing the source ?
2) are you aware of dacs cheap but also with a remarkable bass ?
Lately i have come to the conclusion that music without a very strong bass is not music.
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards,
bg
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My Counterpoint DA-10A DAC (with Alta Vista Audio "Rapture" 24/96 DAC and power supply upgrade) delivers incredibly deep, clean and articulated bass. I don't know if the "standard" 20 bit DA-10A delivers it since I bought mine used already modified. From the first CD I played through it was obvious it was special. If the recording has great bass, it will deliver it.The transport does matter to a degree, I've used transports / CD players from Denon, Creek, Carver, Sony, Oppo, Audio Alchemy and Musical Fidelity and the last three had a deeper, cleaner bass than the others. I also compared coax vs toslink using the Musical Fidelity and coax seemed to have a clear edge, though toslink did well.
Other factors of course will affect it. Speakers and their placement matters a lot too, as do cables and electronics. But the source components and recording are the most important IMHO, cause if it ain't there to begin with, it ain't happening.
Best regards, Ralph
Edits: 04/15/15
Hi and thanks a lot for the very interesting advice.
I see that your dac is of the multibit type with the famous ULTRA ANALOG D/A chip.
I just hope that someday someone will start building again multibit dacs.
It is quite clear that they have an edge on dynamics.
And consequently 2nd hand units of classic DACs like yours are rare and very expensive.
I was reading and article about the new multibit from Schiit Audio, mentioning that the DA chip used is expensive at 100 USD/each.
If the reward is very good sound i could pay 100 USD more for sure.
However the fact that old dacs are better than new ones is just shocking.
What they are doing ?
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 04/15/15
I've listened to Schitt DACs and found them to sound pretty good. I also think the sound of my Oppo universal player's DAC is quite good. Not in the league of my Counterpoint, but they compare well and deliver satisfying sound. The Oppo BDP-103 sounds great and at about $ 500.00 it's a steal.
I haven't heard enough modern DACs to say if they aren't as good as my DA-10A, but from my limited experience there's some good sounding options out there. I've seen Counterpoint DA-10s on E-Bay going for $700 to $800. Un-modified. I've never seen a "Raptured" DAC on sale there, though.
Best regards, Ralph
Hi and thanks a lot again for the very valuable advice.
Main discussion is about the dynamics available from sigma-delta dac chips being quite inferior to old multibit dacs.
With the outcome that sound from old multibits is much more realistic even if maybe less refined and precise ?
Strange the switch of the Counterpoint designer from UltraAnalog multibit to a new sigmadelta chip.
I would not do that on the basis of what i have learned here.
The good old dacs are very rare in the 2nd hand market, and this should mean something. Or sold for big money.
But if the new multibit dac from Schiit will be very successfull i am sure many other will follow. I am absolutely sure of that.
So i think that this dac could be epochal. Some kind of a milestone.
The revenge of multibits !
Above all other things it promises to give a never heard sound from cds !!!
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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DOn't think the Ultra analog chip is made anymore. The key to their sound was that designers and the users if equipt to do so, could pick from one of seven decoding algorithms to alter the sound.
Only Spectral offered that user option however.
Incidentally for good bass the best IIRC was the older Stax player.....
Hi and thanks for the valuable advice.
If i understand well you mean that the very good dynamics are the result of some kind of DSP carried-out with special decoding algorithms that alter the sound ?
i was thinking more that is the multibit nature of the dac chip that gives this exciting performance.
Changing subject a little but not much i was amusing to read that the dac chip used in the last Schiit dac is too good for audio.
Too good for audio ? a sector in which some dacs cost tenth of thousand of dollars too good for those units ?
or also ... too expensive at 100 USD/each ...
what are 100 USD in the high end ? is nothing !
I would be extremely willing to spend 100 USD more to have a top of the class dac chip in my converter.
Sometimes i read weird things.
Anyway i listened to some ess based dac and in the end i found them unexciting ... maybe clean, noiseless, defined ... but flat also.
And i see many of them on sale 2nd hand.
Instead i have hear a ridicoulusly priced 1543 dac that i like.
Maybe a little gross but also musical.
I will try it out soon with a better lab grade power supply i am waiting.
This is not good. The music must excite. Always.
I hope this new dac from Schiit will show the way to all others.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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The "quality" of the bass is affected by the input jitter to the DAC and how good the DAC is at rejecting jitter. This is why other posters have commented on the quality of transport making a difference to the bass.
Depending on your transport, you will get the best result by reclocking the input data to your DAC. However, it all depends on your budget as to how far you want to go.
An Apogee Big Ben is reasonably priced and will give you better results than simply changing the DAC. You can use it as a digital hub as well as for format conversion eg Optical to AES/EBU. Put it this way, even if you bought another DAC, you would still get an improvement using such a device between the source and DAC.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
Hi and thanks a lot indeed for the very interesting advice.
If i understand well the Apogee Big Ben reclocks the signal ? this is interesting indeed. And is it effective ?
Actually i am listening now to an Apogee Rosetta 200 and the sound is quite ok but i am using a very cheap usb to spif converter from Muse Audio. So maybe the Big Ben could be a godsend.
Is it really effective ? i start looking for it.
However i have to add that now on the Rosetta the lock is ok with both leds wide and narrow steadily on.
I did not understand very well but this should mean good syncro something ... let's say that is good.
I do not know if the Rosetta performs internally any reclocking already.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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Yes to both questions!
Yes it reclocks a digital input and the output can be another format eg IN= AES OUT= Optical or whatever you prefer.
It is much better than the cheaper products marketed for that purpose like Monarchy DIP etc.
The best way to describe the effect of a low jitter input is that everything just sounds more "real" (even with 16/44 sources). Don't expect more "detail" as such. The soundstage becomes wider and deeper and the bass becomes very deep and "tuneful" so details that may have seemed very obvious may actually become less prominent because it will be in better perspective in the soundstage. For me I notice the bass quality and the realism to the timbre of instruments and vocals.
If you can afford it, the ultimate clock (at least a few years ago!!) is the Grimm CC1. However, the Apogee Big Ben is so close that I'm not sure the CC1 would be worth it unless you really needed that "last little bit". I have both - I upgraded to the CC1 for my recording and on playback, my Oppo 103 is indistinguishable to my reference transport when reclocked by the CC1.
I recommend that you test Big Ben first to see if it works for you.
The primary function of Big Ben is a Master/reference clock for recording studios - so if you buy an ADC like the Benchmark ADC1 or whatever, you use Big Ben as the master clock so all devices are in sync with
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
Hi and thanks a lot for the very helpful advice.
Interesting unit indeed and very flexible too.
I will look for one.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
...or was that someone else?
Those EAD dacs are good too, but no USB Input (you'd Need a USB to SPDIF converter)
Hi i bought it and it is packed away.
I have not tested it yet.
Let me explain. For me now the obsession is the "dac".
I searched for a good old one, one of the multibit family, but did not find it.
I was about to buy a Monarchy 22A for a really nice price with the famous pcm63 inside but disappeared for the market. I think that should be a good one.
So i am looking for a dac i can trust. Spdif input is just fine. No problem with usb.
In the meantime i wandered and bought things that do not completely convince me. And i bought some dacs, the EAD Ovation pre processor, and some little boxes from Muse Audio, SMSL, etc.
But i made a big mistake. Big.
I have decided to listen only to digital. For ever. No LPs.
If i score the right dac that would be a big step ahead.
The rest can follow but for me a very good dac is the corner stone of a nice system.
So the plan is to listen to what i have and if there is nothing good i will try to sell something for an hopefully definitive buy.
That is the plan. Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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your posted system. I bet it sounds great. I would investigate a sub with an adjustable crossover and high pass filter arrangement to your speakers. It will give you a lot of options to increase the bass output and keep the sound signature of your system intact.
The differences in bass outputs of DACs will have a much smaller impact on your systems capabilities.
I think realistic bass is a key to music.
Hi and thanks a lot indeed for your encouraging words !
Actually i have other three dacs for test (actually i have already bought them): a Apogee MiniDac (for headphones); Apogee Rosetta 200 and an old Cambridge Audio Dacmagic DAC 3.
Sometimes i have the strong sensation that i am wasting resources instead of putting the money in the piggy bank and buy something of serious.
However, now i have really understood i have to look first at full range speaker system.
Sub is indeed a valid option because from around 100 Hz up i can bear the sound. A little gross but not irritating.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
The best bass I've ever heard from a DAC was the old Sonic Frontiers SFD2-MkII..... The Prism DA-2 I'd put 2nd.... Maybe the Wadia 9 third.
I would have mentioned my Kinergetics KCD-55 Ultra but it is so rare that I didn't really see the point. It also used 2 of the UltraAnalog DAC modules and it has very deep powerful and natural sounding bass.
Hi and thanks a lot for the very interesting advice.
If i am not wrong they are also the units that in general you have liked most.
In your opinion, is bass performance a very important characteristic for judging the quality of a digital source ?
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Bass is an important characteristic.... Bass linearity in particular is one of the most important.... Makes the music sound merely "there", without any blasting or shouting. (Maybe the one parameter that makes home audio easily distinguishable from live music.) Of course, if you have bass linearity, you then need downstream electronics and transducers that can handle it as well.
The Sonic Frontiers DAC excelled with bass linearity.... A piece like Saint Saens "Organ" Symphony is where this particular DAC stood out, the organ seemed like a separate entity from the orchestra. Where most DACs, the bass energy from the organ breaks down the orchestra into a diffuse puree (to varying degrees), the inner voices lost.
Hi and thanks a lot again for the very helpful advice.
So bass is really fundamental, and dacs have indeed different capabilities.
And yes, i have been already advised to look also at speakers, if they are not really full range there is no way to assess the real performance in the bass.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Interesting how I never before considered Bass important because my loudspeakers are really not all that large.
However, I will note that I believe there is such a thing as the 'illusion of bass', sort of the envelope of the bass. So, while the loudspeakers cannot shake the room, there is a leading edge and a trailing edge that may suffice and if messed up, merely confuses the music line.
Also, I think the power supply of the DAC has got to be the most critical because not only is the DAC handling the audio range, but it is oversamplying at, at least, 8x the audio cutoff frequency, so the noise riding on the power supply has additional freq range in which to affect the results.
"Also, I think the power supply of the DAC has got to be the most critical because not only is the DAC handling the audio range, but it is oversamplying at, at least, 8x the audio cutoff frequency, so the noise riding on the power supply has additional freq range in which to affect the results."
The "8x the audio cutoff frequency" is where the analog post filter is needed..... The RF noise reflected to the power supply (and surrounding electronics) is from the switching of the bits (essentially square waves, whose spectra run to RF), which occur more frequently at higher rates. So the noise spectra isn't so much related to sample rate, but higher rates will increase the intensity of the RF noise.
The "illusion" of great bass and great bass might be perceived totally differently. Great bass, more than anything else, sustains clarity in large scale and dynamic music. The "illusion" might call attention to the bass, but if the overall clarity of the performers suffers, the bass IMO isn't so hot.
Hi and thanks for the interesting reply.
Let me comment here below
" Interesting how I never before considered Bass important because my loudspeakers are really not all that large "
i come from a similar experience. My speakers have never had a woofer bigger than 6". I never had the feeling of missing anything.
Then i went to a friend's house and we listened to some of my cds on his JBL Horizon ... i was missing a lot, a lot indeed.
I think that the low part of the spectrum gives a nice sensation of room filling ... sound with space and body.
" However, I will note that I believe there is such a thing as the 'illusion of bass', sort of the envelope of the bass. So, while the loudspeakers cannot shake the room, there is a leading edge and a trailing edge that may suffice and if messed up, merely confuses the music line "
it could be but there are instruments that cover the lowest part of the audio range. If the speakers cannot reproduce that part the outcome cannot be fully realistic. For instance the piano. No minimonitor can give a realistic reproduction of a piano.
" Also, I think the power supply of the DAC has got to be the most critical because not only is the DAC handling the audio range, but it is oversamplying at, at least, 8x the audio cutoff frequency, so the noise riding on the power supply has additional freq range in which to affect the results "
it is also my sensation that digital is very sensitive to noise in the supply. Probably more than analog.
A better elimination of this noise could improve sound quite remarkably.
The more common mods on cd players were on PS of clock and dac chip.
So i think it is a very critical aspect.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
This machine has great bass...well it was just great.
Hi and thanks a lot again for the valuable advice.
I can well understand that old and exceptional units are extremely rare.
Who owns them i guess tends to keep them.
I will read about it.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Well the Theta DACs from the 1990s are good in this regard, great for rock etc.
But in general, 'bass' is overrated, if you mean a booming box. Listen to a planar speaker for a while (or even a Lowther horn) for a more realistic (in my view) portrayal of the bass range without all that rock 'boom'. Of course, that is always built into most rock music anyway, as most listen to the amplified stuff on huge ported monitors.
Cheers beppe!
The problem is when you listen to an album that is supposed to have rock boom and the loudspeakers (panels and single drivers) that can't reproduce it means it is likely not reproducing bass in classical symphonies either but is being ignored by the listener. There are good rock recordings and for that matter good recordings of dubstep and other synthesizer based music which have no dynamic or frequency based limitations (with the disadvantage of not being related to real instruments).
Still the synth music and bass never seems satisfying on panels or single drivers to me. Nor is it satisfying in pop/rock music when it is applied. I can accept the trade-offs mind you because of the advantages offered by some of them - but only up to a price point. When I have to pay $10k-$20k+ for a speaker that sounds incredibly lightweight with the likes of Noisia or mainstream stuff like Tiesto or even Sarah McLachlan's Remix album with Delerium then it's a problem. Adding subs don't help the midbass or upper bass.
We need to stop putting our musical tastes above what other listeners desire. Bass is overrated because rock and dubstep/trance sucks doesn't help the guy who happens to like rock and or dubstep/trance and wants to feel the bass in his chest at moderately high to very high volume levels.
I agree with most of what you said.
I used to want 2 different systems for different kinds of music (or small scale and large scale). But now, I'm listening to large ported box speakers with 10" bass drivers and Heil air motion mid/tweeters, which is actually a decent compromise...no straining in the crossover between mid and highs, and a decent amount of relaxed bloom (and punch) in the bass. I can listen to Mozart or Van Morrison and be happy.
Cheers
I would expect a Heil AMT too work very well with a 10" woofer. My woofers are only 8" (Spendor BC-1's) but I use a subwoofer, so no worries here.
Dave
Hi and thanks for the helpful reply
From what i have read in the forum it seems that the multibit generation of dacs, like the Theta, had a more dinamic and robust sound. Thicker and fuller. While the new generation of dacs seems to privilege the resolution ?
Well resolution is surely important but i would trade that for a more robust sound.
I am going to try for instance even cables as a band-aid. I have bought a pair of Cardas XLR and waiting to received them.
They are known to give more body to the cheap digital.
I should have said better that i am looking for more body in the sound from my digital.
The fact that old multibit dacs are both rare and still expensive tells that the actual progress in digital sound is debatable.
Otherwise more recent dacs should make vintage dacs obsolete.
And it is not the case.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
in your discovery that lower bass IS important! :) It's too bad that it took so many years for your discovery, but like investing, better now than never.
Your biggest asset in reaching the LF you want will, of course, be the speaker itself. The DAC, as with all components/cables, will be indirectly critical, as the system determines the outcome of bass. Change anything, and the bass will change.
My primary criteria for a DAC is resolution/clarity, and only secondarily for bass presence. I can achieve additional bass presence via all the other aspects of a system. Perhaps something to consider. But, if at this point you think the rig is deficient in bass, even when you get a more capable speaker, you will likely need to change more than one component.
Finally, the cables will be as important as any component in achieving the bass you want. Some cables absolutely suck the life out of all frequencies, and kill bass, too. Try several types and brands, and you will hear for yourself. :)
The greatest impediment to advancing an audiophile system is the audiophile.
Hi and thanks a lot for the very valuable reply.
I do not know why but i usually tend to forget speakers and you are clearly right.
No Wadia can give a prodigious bass to a minimonitor equipped with a 4" woofer ...
You are right. I have to start there and then take care of the rest.
My actual speakers are quite limited in bass response. 8" plastic woofer
The message is very clear.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
I think that you pose is an interesting question. I too have noticed that some DACs seem to subjectively produce a stronger or more full bass than do others, even though both feature a flat measured frequency response extending down to at least 20Hz. DACs are probably the most complex of audio components, having many circuit aspects which could alter the subjective sound while still exhibiting a flat 20Hz-20kHz frequency response. Circuit aspects such as jitter, and ultrasonic image rejection profiles readily come to mind.I would expand the context of this question to include other components as well, such as preamps. The power supply often comes up as the culprit, however, any circuit will only consume so much power, regardless of the amount of power potentially available. Overkill of the power supply's current capability, especially for a DAC or preamp application, cannot be the primary cause of any improvement in circuit performance - assuming properly effective voltage regulation, of course. It seems that it must be due to some secondary factors. I suspect, but have not confirmed, that this has to do with the dynamic behavior of a given circuit. Both the time domain behavior, and changes in the distortion profile over the dynamic envelope of the circuit and it's power supply operating together as a joint entity.
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Ken Newton
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Hi and thanks a lot indeed for your very helpful reply.
You have expressed my sensation much better.
I was thinking exactly that some digital, and Wadia cd players and dacs are famous at this, have a much better bass response, or also Krell-like.
And once experienced a bass like that many other digital rigs are disappointing. A granitic bass is a very good thing.
It is mandatory to reproduce in a realistic way instruments like piano, organ, bass.
Not all the dac are good at the same level.
Maybe it is just a matter of output stages design ?
I do not know.
To find then a cheap dac with a strong bass is almost impossible.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 04/09/15
Do you listen to much live music? Is it deficient too?
beppe61 may, in fact, mean 'extended', 'accurate' and/or perhaps 'articulate'.
Big J
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Hi and it depends.
I attended some concerts from my seat i did not like the sound completely.
On the contrary i had the opportunity to listen to some hifi systems and i was amazed by the quality of sound.
In general i would prefer a very good system instead of going to a live performance.
I do not like the additional noise. I listen very seldom to live music.
Just another consideration.
One of the last concert i have been the sound was completely amplified.
Is this live music ? i am just asking.
As i said some systems are so good that the brain is quite fooled into believing that is the real thing.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Sorry, I think you need to hear more live music. hope you're not the guy who pulled up alongside me in that ccar shaking from bass
he needs an honest reply to a completely legitimate question.
This is an audio hobby board, NOT a live music review board.
Try to stay focused!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
We have all sat beside a car with thumping all bass noise. I can crank up my bass with an EQ but it is not realistic. This may be what he is asking for.
The only thing that sounds like a grand piano is, big surprise, a grand piano
If you want to add 20 Db at 50 Hz great, but don't kid yourself that you are a knowledgable audio hobbyist, or that what you are listening to is music.
And I am listening to 15 inch tannoys right now
do you mean that speakers are more fundamental than dacs ?
It could be the case that actually i am focusing the wrong element of the chain.
I understand that even the greatest bass dac around cannot give bass with a minimonitor.
Thanks for the advice.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 04/10/15
A subwoofer could help those Tannoy 609 mk II's. They are very nice but I would not expect those woofer to be able to dip very low. Size does matter.
Dave
Hi and thanks for the valuable advice.
I see better now that a full range system implies inevitably full range speakers.
So it is the 1st step in order to be able to appreciate also a better source/dac. Surely my dac is very cheap.
But speakers first.
I wonder if it is not the case of changing them completely instead of adding a sub. I am a little scared by complex system and a sub (or 2) would add complexity.
I have to think about it a little more seriously.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
It really is not that complex to hook up a sub. My preferred method is from the preamp outs to the sub and roll the base in under the satellites without any filtration of the signal to the main speakers. Then I adjust by ear,
Dave
Hi and i am not excluding the sub idea but i would do it with an active x-over.
And actually this is my long term best solution, with two bass boxes one per side below speakers taking care of the portion from 100-150 up.
Those could be almost everything, from panel to widebands.
Yes that would be my definitive system.
I have come to the conclusion that low bass need indeed a serious 15" cone.
I had the opportunity to listen to a pair of old JBL L-200 ... loved them completely in the bass. Just perfect for me. I cannot ask of more.
But above 100 Hz i am open to different solutions, like panels for instance.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Hi i do not understand
Do you mean that if i listened to more live music i would change my mind about the importance of a strong bass ?
Let me explain why i "need" bass.
I spent many many years with a decent pair of bookshelves ,,, with a 13 cm woofer.
I thought i was hearing music. Instead i was not.
I realized this at a friend's house listening to a pair of vintage JBLs L-200 ... wow !!! what a difference ...
A bass so powerful, full, musical ... giving body to the sound.
So now i am obsessed by bass response and many dac are weak on the bass.
Wadias are not weak but they are very expensive and rare as 2nd hand units.
I wonder if something cheaper can give a decent performance.
For instance i am listening to a Cambridge Audio dacmagic now ... weak.
Maybe i should try a different power supply ?
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Here we get into the argument about "natural" or "absolute " sound, ie do we want to be impressed or hear what's on the disc.
Hi i thought a little and i think i am ready to answer
I would like to get something that impresses me with its realism.
I am looking for a more real than real experience.
Call it the feeling to be there without having to bother with concert booking, the unwanted noise, the coughs ...
For instance i like much more recordings taken without the pubblic.
Sometimes i have found this kind of experience told by reviewers reviewing some exceptional product. I am referring to reviews in Stereophile like those of Rockport Antares speakers, Stax headphones, etc.
At certain moments the reviewers were fooled to hear the real thing.
This is just amazing.
When, blindfolde, you are not sure to listen to a recording or to a real performance.
I understand not easy to get, but still ...
Thanks and regards.
Kind regards,
bg
I think the best live sound I have heard was the Washington Chamber Orchestra playing Felix Mendelsohn in a small, but well designed auditorium and there was no amplification. No sound system I have ever heard could match it.
Dave
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My Metrum Octave bass is much better from my Sony transport than Oppo.
An Emotiva CD player (generation 1 I think) that I heard had bass like I have never heard otherwise, so check them for cheap DAC w/ awesome bass (I just did not like the slight glare, etc.). It was a reference for my ears and I have not heard such low, tight bass otherwise.
Hi and thanks a lot indeed for the confirmation that also the transport is important.
So even if i buy a mighty Wadia and use it with a bad transport the bass will suffer greatly.
This is important to me.
Sometimes Emotiva dacs pop up on 2nd market. I will read and look about them.
Thanks a lot indeed.
Kind regards,
bg
I would guess that some DACs are more sensitive to transports than others. I don't know and I don't believe that anyone could explain such things anyway (such as why a transport and optical fiber quality affects bass more than treble in my system). In the end you still have to try the equipment to find out how it sounds in your system.
Hi and thanks again
I have to find a friend with a really full range system and listen.
Maybe even my dac in a different but full range system can provide a decent bass if not ultimate bass.
My actual speakers are limited in the very low bass. They cannot serve to test this aspect i am afraid.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
I have an inexpensive S.M.S.L. DAC that takes a 9 VDC wallwart power supply (PS).
I exchanged the PS for an industrial, open-frame linear power supply that I got surplus (i.e. low price). It could supply 5 amps for a DAC that was rated at 1.5 amps.
The bass was like, to the floor, pretty good IMO.
I ultimately replaced it with a much smaller power supply that I thought sounded much smoother throughout the whole range.
However, if I were to just be playing pop music, I may have preferred the 'to the floor' bass of the industrial (and heavy) power supply.
Hi and thanks a lot for the very interesting advice
This experience shows how big is the impact of the power supply quality on the bass
But keeping the PS the same and changing source ? have you carried out any test ?
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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