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In Reply to: RE: MSB or Metrum Transient R2R DAC modules. posted by jusbe on February 05, 2015 at 21:39:09
Hi and thanks a lot for the valuable suggestions.
It is wonderful indeed ... i see prices of about 3-4000 USD
I like it a lot indeed.
Also the Lite Audio at half the price is really greatly built.
Nice dac you have.
" That said, neither are or are likely to be inexpensively implemented "
this i do not understand completely ...
anyway in the meantime i got an information that very good sound is not elusive of specific dac chips but more of well done designs and constructions
For instance the Prism Audio Orpheus, very popular in the pro sector as a masterpiece, uses a cheap chip ... the CS4398 as dac.
And the sound is said to be phenomenal.
Also that one is not cheap ... only the chip is cheap.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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I saw a Wadia 15 go for about GBP 1,000 recently on Hifi Wigwam. So it is possible to get one cheaper. Nice unit.
The Lite Audio system was a bit of an underground hit. I use I2S to the LT-1 transport, itself a nice unit with particular attention paid to the signal transmission (a bit like Audio Note does, possible). Separate power and so on.
These chips require specific filter and implementation requirements to be paid to them, more so than the do-it-all cheap chips you find today. As a result, unless you are a competent digital designer, you may not get the mbest out of them. For high-end (and enthusiast) digital companies of the past and present, this wasn't a problem, but that pushed costs up. The sound as a result, however, is frankly amazing.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
You owe it to yourself to seek out a dac with the UltraAnalog 20 bit R2R dac modules...they really are something special and based on what I have heard, have it over both the PCM63 and 1704.
My Kinergetics has two stereo modules in differential mode and once it warms up it has a dimensionality...even with SS output that was stunning. The whole package is just better.
given that some of the best R2Rs today plough the same path as the UltraAnalog, I may well do so. It's unlikely I'll be able to afford the Metrum or the MSB chips in a DAC anytime soon. Thanks for the recommendation - I guess I was casually searching for one, in a way. :)
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
NT
try it! you know you want to!
I noticed that at the end of last year. Have you built it?I2S input = good. Op-amps to achieve balanced output = not so great, usually. But perhaps the SE output is okay?
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
Edits: 02/09/15 02/09/15
Just received 4 here but haven't put it all together yet. Waiting for the designer to release info on synching them together for 8 channel active system....
try it! you know you want to!
I stumbled across mine at a ridiculously low price so I could not say now :). The dealer apparently knew very little about what was inside and since Kinergetics is not really a household name...especially now that they are defunct it was cheap. Very very good sounding.
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