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In Reply to: RE: I stand corrected posted by Tony Lauck on September 03, 2014 at 07:47:08
You can continue to go by your own belief system, but repeating it over and over does not make it so. I understand the audiophile ostrich mentality, because finding out there something better than you own, for not that much more, can be a pain.The MyTek user interface is not that big of deal to figure out. It took me all of 15 minutes. I was lazy about adjusting the jumpers, which I did a while ago. Programming a Cable DVR is more complicated than the MyTek.
You doubt you can do better, but have not done any active comparisons to speak of, so it conveniently fits into the story you tell yourself.
Your logic in that why buy a DAC costing more than the the ADC used during the recording/conversion process is crazy. Most of the best, most celebrated recordings of our time were done with cables, outboard gear, and monitors that cost less than the average audiophile interconnect today.
With that line of thinking you could say there was no such thing as power conditioning in studios, so why bother using it today? Flawed logic.
And I assure you not all DACs costing more than the MyTek are equipped with useless thick faceplates. Most of the products in the $3000-$4000 range have functional casework that does not rattle (unlike the MyTek,lol) and front panels that are also functional. There is not enough margin for audio jewelry there. For that, see MSB, dCS, Berkeley, Briscasti, Chord, Light Harmonic etc, and they are priced accordingly.
Listen to the mid line Naim DAC and the MyTek side by side. It's like two totally different recordings being played. Everything starts with the source.
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tell what something will sound like.
There are many different elements, beyond just the DAC (or DACs), that go into making up the final sound of the product. The quality of the power supply, what type and if the damping materials, quality of connectors, case, etc.
Just like redbook CD players, it's not just the digital to analog conversion process that matters. It's impossible to tell that the mid-fi NAD cd player sounds like a lo-fi CD player as opposed to the mid-fi Arcam CD 92 sounds like a high end player without listening to them to compare.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
...and that being said, I find it hilarious when folks obsess and making purchasing decisions based on DAC chips and other components that are but one element of the final product.
Sordidman,
I completely agree with your contention that you need to listen to a disc player. Some of the folks at AVS have castigated me for claiming that I prefer analog stereo from my Ayre C-5xeMP to that from my Oppo BDP-105. They claim I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a double blind test. One guy claims all you need is a transport and a $2 DAC; after that, they're all the same.
I believe my perception, not their claims.
db
with your excellent AYRE player, as well as the OPPO.
I find it ironic that the same people who (don't listen) and then make the general claim that transports don't matter: turn around a minute later and say that the OPPO and the Ayre use the same transport and therefore sound the same.
CH of Ayre of pointed out that he looked at the ESOTERIC transport: and found it to be cost prohibitive given the level of what he wanted to achieve with the other internal components of the player.
It takes less than two seconds, (when listening through good downstream components), to know that the Ayre is TONS better sounding than the Oppo.
Cheers,
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
there is no single answer for adjusting/not adjusting them.
In the default setting, the output is screaming loud.
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