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In Reply to: RE: At a Loss For Words posted by fantja on August 17, 2014 at 05:25:00
Interesting observations, that absolutely mirror my experiences with DACs.
Having had a few DACs that employed "Oversampling" I came to the conclusion that I just could'nt get beyond what sounded to me like a "macro" effect to whatever music I played.
To me it sounded like massed instruments were playing in a more "reverberant" soundstage
imore like a "macro" effect that seemed to lessen the spatial relatiionships between instrument sections by adding more "air" to the entire soundstage.
Long story, short; I just did'nt feel Oversampling on a "Hardware" level worked for me. Surprisingly though, upsampling the music I listen to through my Metrum Hex NOS DAC
has been sounding like the "Bee's Knees" lately. Though I rip my music to 16/44.1(w dBPa)
I listen to it at 24/176.4. I will admit that these files eat up a lot of storage "real estate". (24/176.4 sounds more detailed than 24/88.2 so I gladly give up the storage space)
Follow Ups:
Yes, it's not as simple as declaring digital filtering to be bad and NOS to be good. No doubt, the external software based up-sampling algorithm is superior to the built-in hardware based engines you've probably heard before. As seems true with most technology, an audio DAC's implementation details matter a great deal.
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Ken Newton
Edits: 08/17/14 08/17/14 08/17/14
Ken,
I got a little chuckle out of your response,but I feel obligated to correct
your miscalculation as to who was stating an oversimplification of things.
I can't speak for others,but I'm pretty sure I did'nt say (nor did imply)whether anything was "good" or "bad",only my perceptions of equipment that I've used. I will say that there a numerous persons who have started small businesses correcting the effects of "digital filtering", perhaps not so wisely implemented,by removing this filtering.
I honestly believe that it's probably makes more sense to take an interest in the recording quality of the music you listen to,then to take a generic approach in which case implementation of "digital filtering" inside of your DAC is undoubtebly your only choice. I hate not having choices due to inattention to circumstances I did'nt pay attention to.
I normally give a label or artist a three strike chance before I'll write them off as something I have no interest in listening to. It seems to me
that a lot of digital theory is built around finding ways to fix things
that did'nt really require fixing in the "Analog" realm. Would any of the
"Digital Theory Apologists" care to explain this to the rest of us ?
Old Steve, sorry to leave you that impression. I never intended to suggest that you were the one saying such things. It had appeared to me that you were indirectly responding to 'audioengr', who was making such suggestions. I had intended my reponse to be an affirmation of your point of view, but screwed it up - LOL. This was all due to my poor writing construction.
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Ken Newton
Edits: 08/18/14 08/18/14
He,he,he.....I normally agree with what Steve N. has to say , but I think there are 1 or 2
culprits I would rank a bit higher than filtering.
Unfortunately, I still don't think filtering is something that works for me ! (Sorry)
why I am enjoying my DAC-83 much more than I anticipated.
big j.
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
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