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In Reply to: RE: 2 Z1 owners posted on hi-rez. posted by Tony Lauck on April 08, 2014 at 13:36:21
Cant argue with that.
And its frustrating that I have to copy the analog signal from my SACD player to make a copy for my server.
Oh well.
navman
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I'm going to Record LPs and SACDs, like you, in DSD.
What peak recording levels do you get?
Do you go all the way to 0db, or keep it closer to -6 db?
I make sure brief peaks hit 0 db.
navman
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If I were to be digitizing LPs, I don't think I would use DSD. The reason would not be sound quality, it would be the inability to do any editing of the results that eliminated ticks, clicks and pops. All of the available repair software runs on PCM files, so if you wanted to do any cleanup you would need to do a conversion from DSD to PCM and (if desired) back to DSD. Under the circumstances, you would get better sound quality if you just did the initial capture in PCM.
I would recommend digitizing LPs at 176/24 or 192/24.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Does any of the software supplied with DSD recorders..Korg, etc..allow for basic editing like track splitting?
I believe that my Korg Audiogate software has track splitting , but I've never tried track splitting. Track splitting with PCM files requires almost no attention if the music isn't gapless and very little attention if it is gapless. However, my understanding (from people who do this work) is that track splitting of even non-gapless DSD has potential problems requiring some effort to avoid clicks and track splitting of gapless is likely to be even more difficult. (The amount of effort depends on the amount of "digital needle drop" one considers acceptable, a problem for DSD because of its inability to represent DC.)
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Interesting, thank you for this information.
I have the Korg MR2 DSD/PCM recorder on my s hopping list and was curious. I have done many, many tape dubs to 96/24 and the results have been outstanding, and the editing in Audacity is a snap.
I've had the Korg, Sony Much Better IMO!
AudioGate is great, use it all the time, it can be Downloaded for free without buying the Korg Unit.
Thanks for input. Which Sony in particular?Also the Korg "free" version comes with strings attached. Everytime you use it you must sent a "tweet" out for every single thing you do. I gave up.
There are other functional limitations in the free version as well.
Edits: 04/09/14
Hi, That Tweet function is no big deal. When you use the software, a button comes up to Tweet tha you are using it, nothing more, you never have to login again or anything.
I use it to burn DSD Discs for my Sony 5400 to play Downloads, and Live Recordings I've done.
The Sony is PCM D 100, $800 at Sweetwater or B&H Photo.
32 GB Storage, great battery life.
I've done Live and Line Level , both fantastic!
And it has 20db pad for recording louder live Music, which is invaluable.
I find the Tweet requirement incredibly irritating..that is just me...
Thanks for the info on the Sony. At $300 more than the Korg it seems to have a few more features..
You find it's recording quality is superior? Or are you taking the whole package into consideration. Also it comes with Sound Forge I believe..does that work well?
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Hi, I returned the Korg. I didn't like the sound, for whatever reason, maybe the built in Mics.
I couldn't get high enough recording levels for live, and battery life was poor.
Used a Zoom H4N instead.
I LOVE the sound of the Sony!
Come to think of it the Korg I got was $900, but I could be wrong, maybe $700.
I think Sound Forge is just for Windows and doesn't do DSD, only up to 24/192.
You need MIni pin adaptors, it's a Consumer unit, not pro, but that's not a problem for me, the Quality is just wonderful.
Thanks for all the additional info!
It is not cheap but seems to be as complete a product at this price point as you will see in this category.
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cool...street price is around $800 btw, as you had originally remembered.
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