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In Reply to: RE: 25 years of CD player progress posted by jsm71 on July 18, 2012 at 04:49:41
"This versitility was key because I really don't want to mess with servers as the only way to play digital sources. I have worked in IT for close to 40 years and I just don't want to mess with that stuff at home."
Ah, what you need my friend is a Mac music server. Set it and forget it. No virus scans, no blue screen of death, no bloatware cluttering your screen and bogging down the system, and significantly less frequent patches and annoying security updates from the mother ship MS.
Mac is UNIX based and rock solid. I too have worked in IT for many years and finally made the switch to Mac only 5 years ago after a long history of pain and frustration from the days of DOS through Windows 7.
Putting on my flame retardant suit awaiting my dowsing of gasoline from Apple haters. ;-)
Congrats on the new CD player! A computer based music server takes it to the next level making it even more convenient to access all your tunes with comparable audio quality. Modern DACs are pretty decent these days.
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Abe wrote:
"Putting on my flame retardant suit awaiting my dowsing of gasoline from Apple haters. ;-)"
I'm not an Apple *hater*, but it does frost me a bit when folks crack on Windows so much. Everybody thinks Apple has some magical formula to which others in the industry are not privy. Bot really. Apple's big "secret" is that they, and they alone, dictate what equipment and OS will reside in your system. That makes it orders of magnitude easier for them to build a "rock-solid" system.
The fact that Windows supports an incredible diversity of equipment makes it the better solution for the 90+% of desktops in the business world in which it is installed. The advantage that Apple has in building their monolithic systems is washed away by the fact that your choices for software (and hardware!) are severely limited in comparison to what the Windows user has available.
And, frankly, MS has done a terrific job with their Win7 OS: it is quite stable, easy to use, and has a plethora of software that can run on it. I'll take that any day over an OS that ties my hands with the paucity of software that is available for it...
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is Unix/Linux based. Clearly those OS flavors require fewer resources and are more stable than Windows. :)
...have *very* little software available to them in comparison to Windows. I constantly hear complaints from Mac users that there are no good, free or inexpensive, programs available for something as simple as codec transcoding - converting a WAV file (or any other) to FLAC, MP3, SHN, ISO, ALAC, etc. In the Windows world, there are probably 10-15 programs available to do this task. Do a check and see what the Mac users have available to use. Not much...
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Edits: 07/19/12
All the good, bad, and ugly of operating system competition over the years aside for a moment, and regardless of how much of what Microsoft has done leaves a bad taste in my mouth (same can be said for Apple/Mac, for similar and/or different reasons), there's no question about it -- "fair" or not, there's just more useful software written for Windows than there is for any other operating system.
In my particular case, I consider some specific bits of software essential in terms of making my computer as useful a tool as it is for me.
Different strokes for different folks...
I've always been told that if you're into working with computer graphics, Mac is the way to go. I however, don't spend time working with computer graphics, so even if it's absolutely true about the graphics thing, this particular issue isn't relevant to my use of the computer. What is more relevant to me is email management, chess programs, flight simulation software, and more recently, coaxing decent enough sound from music files on the hard drive. Not enough experience yet with the latter, but in terms of email, chess, and flight, I've tried the so-called "best" for Linux and Mac, and they simply don't hold a candle to what certain "Windows only" programs can do. Granted, not everyone needs and/or wants an email program that can do what mine can do (even with plain text--my preference for email--especially), so for them, there are plenty of email clients that will work (for me, all others remain "not quite adequate", at best).
To each our own - use what works best for us. Currently, I'm finding Windows 7 to be stable and fast, my "required" programs are working well, and there's no way I'll pay extra for what I see as the hardware/software limitations offered by Apple/Mac.
Macs run Windows too, so if you have one or two programs that you must have that runs on Windows only, no worries... just run Windows on your Mac.
Now you're just being silly, Mac FanBoy ;)Why pay a ridiculous premium just to run Windows on a Mac? My new laptop, with a very stable Windows 7, all sorts of fast hardware, large hard drive, etc. runs my Windows programs just fine. :)
Edits: 07/22/12
Me being silly for debunking your misunderstanding and weak argument?
You've been told "that if you're into working with computer graphics, Mac is the way to go. I however, don't spend time working with computer graphics, so even if it's absolutely true about the graphics thing, this particular issue isn't relevant to my use of the computer."
So, you've been told , but have you taken the time to truly experience the differences for yourself as I have? I don't work on graphics at all yet I find the Mac to be a superior platform mostly due to the OS.
"Why pay a ridiculous premium just to run Windows on a Mac?"
Why would you JUST run Windows on a Mac? Mac can run Mac OS X -AND- Windows, so you are essentially getting two computers for the price of one!
If you prefer Windows and that's all you use, no one is suggesting that you buy a Mac.
But, if you PREFER the Mac (as I do) but must have Windoze for the very occasional one or two programs, no need to buy a SECOND PC as the Mac will run Windows just fine.
Running Windoze 7 on the Mac :
Since I already stated that I personally have no need to work with "computer graphics" (as in designing, manipulating, etc.), I'm perfectly happy to respect the opinions of those who do that sort of work professionally. Just as a non-musician might respect my opinion on the particulars of the physical setup of a particular Baroque 'cello, for instance -- no need for them to spend years learning how to play the 'cello in order to "take my word for it".
"If you prefer Windows and that's all you use, no one is suggesting that you buy a Mac."
So we are in agreement.
By all means, use what works for you.
However, I've advocated MACs for a couple years now, ever since Vista showed up and appeared to be such a problem.......
At that point I was running XPpro in my PC (home built) and Win2k in my laptop (still fine).
I have 5 friends / relatives who I've gotten to switch.....2 of 'em college students.
As you can tell by my 'name' I'm a photographer and Yes, the graphics capability and ease of monitor calibration help. My 24" iMac will be around thru the cycle of at least 4 PCs.....making it somewhat less expensive to own....
If / When I have need I'll also investigate the ways to run Windows on a partition. That way I can have some of my game functionality back, though if you connect to the internet thru Windows you'll still have the same vulnerability as other windows systems.
Too much is never enough
40 years of evolutionary improvements to UNIX has it's benefits. ;-)
Abe, I knew the day was coming when the old CDP would bite it, and I have wrestled with CDP vs server build for quite some time in my mind. I have read hours of articles and forum debates readying myself to build a maintainable server that would give me great sound. The conclusion I reached was that by the time I built a proper server and bought a quality DAC, I was way over the cost of the Marantz. I have no problem feeding CDs into a player. I am up and down plenty now with my vinyl.
I also like having a player to allow friends to bring records or CDs over. I may get more serious down the road and augment the setup with a good server. For now I am enjoying raising the bar with this new player quite a bit from what I had. Vinyl still rules my listening habits though.
Then no need for a fire retardant suit..haha
Dynobots Audio
Music is the Bridge between Heaven and Earth - 音楽は天国と地球のかけ橋
In fact, I have Fedora 17 Desktop Edition and Oracle Linux 6.3...... running on my (what else!) MAC . ;-)
And just for grins, I also have Windows 7 and Windows 8 Consumer Preview, also on the Mac.
Yup and more viruses on on the way for mac users even though rah rah section puts fingers and ears and says over and over "I can't hear you!"
" Yup and more viruses on on the way for mac users even though rah rah section puts fingers and ears and says over and over "I can't hear you!"
And going back to Windoze is the cure ??
Yup, call me a Mac fanboy because I am still so thrilled that I opened my eyes and mind to Mac after being a Pee Cee bigot most of my life. ;-)
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