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In Reply to: RE: John Marks is in the cable business! posted by ornery on April 29, 2016 at 15:11:27
Are you talking about the executive-office systems at Steinway & Sons?
Then, you REALLY have no idea what you are talking about.
Those are not MY systems, I don't own them. Each manufacturer decided independently how to price his own products.
I can assure you that all the products were paid for in real-world dollars. But some manufacturers went below dealer cost to place the products in a world-class venue. But that's none of YOUR business.
Furthermore, have you ever heard the Parasound Z-amp v2?
It's people like you who are ruining audio, by listening with your credit cards.
That was a system that had lots of sources and connections, but was played at not huge volumes, to be listened to at arm's length. So, more money for cables, and less for the amp. That amp is a killer, but you don't know that, because your credit card tells you what is good sound.
I am a professional. So are the trained musicians at Steinway. They are happy. You should stop talking about things you know nothing about.
JM
PS: The systems at Steinway DO NOT have any Esperanto Audio cabling. ALL cabling is from AudioQuest, and they all are high-value products.
Follow Ups:
I'm gonna sneak into that office on monday and trade the $1,200 worth of cables for $50 worth and see if he notices. I'm glad to hear nobody actually paid list price for those wires.
It's such an imperfect situation with such limited expectations, the thought of spending 6k on an office system that needs to look nice and be unobtrusive is hard for me to swallow. The thought of spending $1,200 on cables for that system is just ludicrous. Apparently I can't help but comment.
JM-
love your work and writings as always. How does Charlie Hansen fit into any of this matter?
Charlie offered constructive criticism as a friend.
I am fascinated by the theoretical aspects of signal-cable design.
The laying of the first transatlantic cable--before the US Civil War, was one of the civil-engineering achievements of the day. But the cable self-destructed from mutual inductance with the surrounding seawater, because the person in charge kept pouring on more power--which meant that the induced current in opposite polarity in the seawater retarded the signal even more.
Queen Elizabeth's message to President Buchanan, 92 words IIRC, took all day to send.
Oliver Heaviside's invention of coaxial cable, which is essentially, surrounding a DC conductor in a Faraday Cage, allowed much faster transmission. Heaviside's years of work are one of the intellectual triumphs of that age. Fascinating stuff.
I was thinking out loud to Charley, wondering why a length differences in inches in the cable made it sound differently, and he replied that a S/PDIF cable should be at least 20 feet long... .
Now THAT's fascinating!
John
> Queen Elizabeth's message to President Buchanan, 92 words IIRC, took all
> day to send.
Victoria, surely.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
My face is red.
I was so intent in making sure that the US President was right,* I lunched the Brit Monarch.
Yes, Victoria!
Thanks, John
John
*That that predated the US Civil War, I think is really something.
I look forward to your cables, JM. CH notwithstanding.
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