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In Reply to: RE: Translation of Low's letter: posted by Isaak J. Garvey on January 31, 2016 at 14:40:36
What is it about being able to post to an Internet forum that makes people think they are empowered to make serious recommendations about whether somebody should be fired from their job? A useful reminder that while the Internet has provided unprecedented access to means of mass communication, the standards of admission have never been so low. Phooey!
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And yeah, I got exactly the same impression, despite what Garvey might say.
John/Stereophile gave Audioquest a platform to address a controversy; one he likely would not have given a minor league cable manufacturer accused of the same offense.
The fact that, in retrospect, the fallout from Low's weak excuse-piece might have done more damage than the original disclosure of possible fraud in the marketing of cables (fancy THAT!) has little to do with whether he should have been given the platform in the first place.
I have my own opinions on that, but it's NOT MY MAGAZINE and I have never subscribed so WTF do I care?
That said, I think I do understand where Stereophile sits in all of this.
Think about it.
IF there is rampart FRAUD in the marketing of cables by a (the?) MAJOR player in the business, what does THAT say about the industry in general? Is there REALLY any differences in the SQ with ANY of this stuff we spend money on?
Maybe there's a reason that blinded A:B testing can't even be MENTIONED on some of the 'boards' here!
Scary!
Enough to treat us to a boatload of ALL CAPS comments :-)
Scary indeed.
involves not JA's handing the keys to the kingdom to Audioquest's owner, as some here have whined about.
Again, it ain't my magazine and JA is free to do as he pleases with no advice or moralizing from this non-subscriber.
So no, that wasn't and isn't what my posts to the thread address.
But you seemed to miss that point, ALL CAP or NO!
I DO feel that Audioquest would have been better served had JA refused their request for a platform. That view is based on the fact that JA now feels compelled to publish links to Mark Waldrep's original post as well as his followup to Low's weakly justified defense.
That certainly is NOT a good thing for Audioquest.
> I DO feel that Audioquest would have been better served had JA refused
> their request for a platform.
For the record, AudioQuest did not request me to reprint Bill Low's open
letter. I was on the original distribution list and decided that it was
something Stereophile's readers would be interested in reading.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
After of course that you asked his permission to do so!
Can you think of any other reason he might have sent the editor of a magazine an 'open letter'?
Serious question. Were you even aware of the fuss over the video before you read his letter?
Was ANYONE?
Call me uninformed, by I'd never heard of Mark Waldrep or Real HD-Audio before reading this thread.
Tempest in a teapot until it makes the pages of Steriophile (on line)?
Audioquest better off had you chosen NOT to publish their 'open letter'?
Ironic, especially in view of all of the criticism that's been heaped on you for giving them the 'platform'.
Who could forget meeting Dr. AIX?
WHO?
Not me!
Wind out of Garvey's sail ... :)
Huh? If you ask me JA is just digging the hole deeper.
Do you need smelling salts?
It was clear that JA did not "ask for permission" to publish this early one and that I saw his post indicating it was sent out "just about every" other editor.
Which makes it look WORSE for him since he is the ONLY ONE to publish it.
and I am smelling salts .... :)
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I would have suggested "Get a life," but someone beat me to it.
Sez Dave Pogue while wasting keystrokes conversing with someone named 'Ivan303' on Audio Asylum. ;-)
Your post is a useful reminder that reading comprehension is a lost skill.I never suggested anybody be fired. I suggested retirement, and an orderly handling over of the keys to the kingdom. Mr. Atkinson should be recognized for his years of good service, and given a very, very generous send off package.
Edits: 01/31/16
Not true you nitwit. You are seeking the refuge of narrow interpretation, as defamers often do when called to account. What you wrote is, "If I was the Publisher or owner of Stereophile I would ask the current editor to start grooming his successor, on the double." Everybody knows you are talking about a well established editor who is still in mid-career and has not expressed the slightest intention of slowing down, let alone stopping. Suggesting that the persons to whom he is accountable should tell him to "start grooming his successor, on the double" means only one thing to any intelligent reader. Are you not prepared to own that?
Well I certainly think that JA made a serious mistake in publishing Low's letter, but I will let the market decide his fate. I dont think that JA operates in a very competitive environment where significant dollars are at stake or standards are particularly high. His readership seems particularly tolerant. I think this tolerance says nothing positive or negative about his quality as an editor.
I really object to your assertion that JA can be trusted to make a objective decision about his fate at this magazine. I am not going to get into everything that I think makes him a lousy editor, but I will say that he seems the type that will think himself capable years after he has stopped eating solid food. I think his exit would make for a better magazine and have thought this for years.
I voted against his continued tenure by not renewing my subscription.
"JA made a serious mistake in publishing Low's letter, but I will let the market decide his fate. I don't think that JA operates in a very competitive environment where significant dollars are at stake or standards are particularly high. His readership seems particularly tolerant. I think this tolerance says nothing positive or negative about his quality as an editor."
Despite the tangents, side conversations, smoke and mirrors, and distractions, I think you managed to get to the heart of the matter of this thread with the above.
Well done.
No need to protect the readership gents, I'm sure most can read, comprehend and then protect themselves, maybe those offended are in need of some kind of PG rated issue, seems everything printed in SP penetrates their intellectual shields.
Only children call people names on internet forums.
Mid career? Yeh,sure, people pushing 70s are clearly mid career.
The shoe fits you nitwit!
I get your point. I just thought he was way offside.
is a sure way of 'winning' when one is having a disagreement on the internet."A useful reminder that while the Internet has provided unprecedented access to means of mass communication, the standards of admission have never been so low."
Couldn't agree more!
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dear lord, a lawyer that explains it. I was being kind when I called you a child.
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