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In Reply to: RE: Ping John Atkinson: posted by Jaundiced Ear on October 02, 2015 at 16:14:16
Is his posting on another forum "outing" the facts to the design of the Revel speaker
being credited to the wrong person.
The original Post has been deleted but you can read it in another followup posting
Interesting comment-whether its a hanging offence or not seems Harman thought so.
Des
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> [Rumour] is his posting on another forum "outing" the facts to the design
> of the Revel speaker being credited to the wrong person.
I read Greg Timbers' original post on this subject and was puzzled by it,
as he was wrong about the facts. Revel's original designer was Kevin
Voecks, of Mirage and Snell and had been hired by the late Sandy Berlin
when Sandy started the company as a spin-off from Mark Levinson Audio
Systems prior to the sale of the brands to Harman.In his forum post, Greg had described Kevin as a "marketing person" who
knew nothing about speaker design. This was incorrect, as Kevin's designs
for Mirage and Snell had been impressive - see link below - and Kevin
headed the Revel design team, which included Domenic Buonincontri and
Mark Glazer after the sale to Harman. Greg was correct, however, in
crediting Mark Glazer for his work for Revel. Mark was primarily responsible
for the design of Revel's current Performa speakers and from my own
conversations with Mark, I believe Mark to be an engineer's engineer.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Edits: 10/03/15 10/03/15 10/03/15
The Snell AII and AIIIi had a unique peculiar sort of treble coloration that was unforgettable. In my own experiments I accidentally stumbled on the source of this coloration by duplicating it many years later. I have concluded that the speaker produces strong lateral reflections in the range of 6-7 kHz. The reason for this anomaly is the polyurethane glued to the front of the tweeter that reduces its on axis output relative to its off axis response. I was told by Snell's mother at a trade show shortly after Peter's death that the purpose of the polyurethane was to improve off axis treble dispersion. This made sense. I listened to this strange and interesting sound for several hours and then altered my own design (which achieved this effect through a different route.) I've never had any desire since to hear it again now that I know what it is.
Snell AIIIi and Revel Salon Ultima verson one had a rear firing tweeter. Revel Salon Ultima version II didn't. This seems odd in light of Toole's conclusion that early lateral reflections were desirable. Beranek came to the same conclusion.
to being slightly perplexed at the outcome --for such an obviously sincere Team player all
those years--like I said --a hanging offence?-- to merely 'correct' some anomalies that appear
to cloud the perceptions of whom/who did/designed what--
90 minutes and escorted from the building for seemingly that post alone?
I'm struggling to comprehend that was the only reason--
Des
PS :Oh yes JA Thank you for the link and forthright reply-- appreciated
Nt
Note that it is from 2007. Even if it was from last week that would be a pretty small offense when weighed against 43 years of work.
I'm sure Greg Timbers will land on his feet. I wouldn't be surprised if he already had offers. Heck, maybe John Atkinson could hire him to do the speaker testing for Stereophile. ;) I'm just stunned that a company could simply kick out the door an employee who had worked so long for them and contributed so much as to virtually become the face of the product.
JE
I guess it's not a union shop.
43 years - you come to work with a bad hair cut = you're fired. Zilch you can do about it.
based on the date of the action, September 30, that this was planned in advance by Harman as a cost cutting action. I suspect Harman's fiscal year begins on October 1, and they needed to have Greg Timbers' position off the books by that time.
Of course, if I'm right, this only adds salt to the wound. If Harman knew where they were going well in advance, then they had plenty of time to notify Greg Timbers and to arrange some way to bid him a decent farewell for his 43 years of service. Instead Harman decided to pop up out of a trap and give Greg Timbers the "perp walk."
A pox on the Harman suits and their bonuses.
JE
It sucks to get laid off. It sucks to lay people off. The whole thing sucks. Hope the guy lands on his feet.
I only hope the company had the decency to bury some severance that would have been equivalent of a generous notice period in the package.
But future success is the best revenge. I hope he designs something that puts his old shop to shame.
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Nothing surprises though with Harman-
Des
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