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In Reply to: RE: COmmon Practice? posted by fmak on September 04, 2015 at 08:04:33
>EU countries are now all bearing down on Starbuck, Amazon et al who escape
>local taxes by booking sales transactions thru third countries.
And what on earth does this has to do with Stereophile, which doesn't
have a formal business presence in the EU, or with me?
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
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Your distributor sells to the EU and comes under EU law.
I do not believe that is correct. The difference is that Amazon and Starbucks have companies established in the EU.Stereophile and its proprietors have no EU presence nor do they "sell" Stereophile proactively to the EU. Some EU citizens (like me) choose to buy 'phile from the USA i.e we import it. Broadly, therefore, EU internal trading standards do not apply to the terms and conditions of the sale.
The sole EU interest(given that the goods are not prohibited)is that VAT and duty are payable upon the import. However magazines are zero rated (in the UK) so this is not a substantive issue here.
Having said the above the complaint concerning this thread comes from an inmate in Australia. I am unsure how the EU has become involved. Note my comment elsewhere in the thread that my recent renewal notice (sent to me in the EU) has no mention of automatic renewal.
The OP makes it clear that his situation arises from his taking part in a "special offer". There is no evidence that automatic renewal is otherwise commonplace in respect of Stereophile.
Edits: 09/04/15
you dispute the validity of the issue, which is:
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I certainly don't recall responding to this special offer 3 years ago - This is BS as that is something I would never knowingly choose.
Now I look at my credit card and pending is the next 3 years subscription.''
and seek to justify it as 'Common Practice'.
As a very long term subscriber to Stereophile until recently, I was truly pissed off by their distribution company which:
invites all to put card and personal details on a 3in by 2in bit of cutout and send it to them
Choose not to accept long held international addresses so that subscriptions can be renewed on the web after log in
invites you to sort out subscription problems by phoning someone (who the hell are they?) not employed by the magazine and who now says it cannot control, to provide card and address details.
It is certainly not common or acceptable international practice to administer subscriptions in this way, and I would add that I have never encountered such behaviour from anybody, including those from the US.
In contrast, Absolute Sound and HiFiNews manage subscriptions in a straightforward way.
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