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In Reply to: RE: Red Herring alert posted by Pat D on June 25, 2015 at 20:21:53
Yet another baseless comment. I've never said that every speaker available has been reviewed or tested. Are you on medication?
We already get the fact that you employ and trust simplistic tests for your evalution process. Do you forget what you have written (time and time again)?
The last time I did was in 1972 following a Hirsch-Houck test of the AR Integrated amp. Measures great. Unfortunately, it sounded poor. I learned my lesson then.
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"We already get the fact that you employ and trust simplistic tests for your evalution process. Do you forget what you have written (time and time again)?"
Really? Are you saying that listening to speakers at length with a variety of program materials chosen to show differences in speakers simplistic? Because that's how I audition speakers.
"Yet another baseless comment. I've never said that every speaker available has been reviewed or tested. Are you on medication?"
When someone says he/she selects speakers based on listening alone (the audiophile mantra), that implies he/she has checked out every speaker. This is obviously contrary to fact. Give up the audiophile mantra. You can only listen to a relatively small number of speakers out of a much larger number of speakers. How did you screen out the vast majority of speakers which you have never heard? Hint: it wasn't by listening to them.
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"A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser
Are you saying that listening to speakers at length with a variety of program materials chosen to show differences in speakers simplistic?You completely miss what I've said. No surprise there. Your devotion to numbers and graphs is the topic of all my observations.
When someone says he/she selects speakers based on listening alone (the audiophile mantra), that implies he/she has checked out every speaker.
So, Sherlock - when you base your trust on simplistic numbers and graphs, you must be guilty of the same thing! Too funny!
You can only listen to a relatively small number of speakers out of a much larger number of speakers.
You can only view the graphs for a relatively small number of speakers out of a much larger number of speakers.
The only difference in our culling the wheat from the chaff is trusting incomplete numbers vs listener reviews. That concept evidently continues to fly wayyyyy over your head.
You like to look at numbers. I like to hear what experienced listeners observe.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
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"So, Sherlock - when you base your trust on simplistic numbers and graphs, you must be guilty of the same thing! Too funny!"Not only false but utter nonsense. The results of speaker measurements are a tool I like to use when available. They are not the only tool for compiling an audition list.
"You can only view the graphs for a relatively small number of speakers out of a much larger number of speakers."
Of course. When have I ever said otherwise? Measurements results are one tool that I can use when available.
"The only difference in our culling the wheat from the chaff is trusting incomplete numbers vs listener reviews."
Actually, I use both listener reviews and measurements in compiling an audition list, a concept which you seem to refuse to understand. In any case, it is only possible to survey a small proportion of the speakers available.
When I have compiled my audition list, from that point on I rely on my own listening.
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"A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser
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