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In Reply to: RE: I still haven't heard a satisfactory explanation: posted by Pat D on December 03, 2014 at 18:23:41
Plenty of people of the Objectivist ilk, take unsuccessful (null) double blind test results and generalize from these that nobody can hear differences and in some cases, go further to state that the people saying that they hear these differences are delusional. On those occasions where double blind tests come up with solid statistical evidence that a listener heard something, many of these same people go on to deny the validity of the tests. This shows that these people were never objective in the first place, and certainly not scientists.
I suggest that people who care about such things read the linked thread (and the threads linked off of it).
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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Thanks for posting the thread.
Snippet: "Also note the speed with which I was able to identify the right tracks. On the average it was just 10 seconds which included listening to both "X" and "Y" tracks, voting, and the telling foobar to go to the next comparison. To do that requires remembering exactly what the difference is and having no need to listen to A or B reference samples again."
This quote appears to destroy the old, lame excuse that being **forced** to make **quick** decisions is an inherent flaw of DBT. That requirement doesn’t appear to have hindered the author of the thread. Such a test might be useful insofar as separating gifted/trained listeners from poseurs.
You should understand that the author of the post you quoted is an expert listener. He started out as unable to hear minor differences in blind tests and through years of practice mastered the necessary skills. For starters he knew what kind of artifacts would be likely and how to recognize them when they occurred. You will find this explained in the very long and acrimonious thread linked below.
I would also point out that he was given as much time as he needed. Often he spent a lot of time at first searching for a solid "tell" and characterizing it. Once you've done this then you need to remember only a small amount of information, hence the rapid decision making.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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