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In Reply to: RE: It may be bread & butter for mastering engineers, but......... posted by Rick W on May 29, 2014 at 22:48:12
"there's a helluva lotta shitty sounding recordings mastered by engineers. What's that tell you?"
There are three answers that come to mind. :-)
1. There are a lot of shitty mastering engineers
2. There are a lot of recordings that were so bad that there was nothing that could be done with them. (Mastering engineers use the phrase, "polishing a turd".)
3. There are a lot of producers and musicians who haven't a clue what constitutes good sound and they pay the engineers to produce what they want to hear, for example, "loud". (One could say that engineers who accommodate their customers have "sold out", but their phrases are "keeping my studio open" and "feeding my children".)
The real problem IMO is the customers who buy the shitty recordings. I learned very early to purchase recordings made by certain labels and certain engineers and avoid recordings made by other labels even I liked the music and the artist. If a recording was made by "Lewis Layton" or "Bob Fine" there was an extremely good chance it would be sonically excellent.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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the equipment used in many/most studios that measures great and sounds terrible. Some of the worst sounding spkrs./amps I've heard have been in mixing rooms at recording studios.
While I think the best mastering engineers (Greg Calbi/Doug Sax/ Bernie Grundman etc.)employ much better sounding gear, for every mastering engineer/studio that does there are 50 that use rotten sounding spkrs./amps chosen because the engineers are sure that stuff that measures flat results in "accurate" sound.
A well known engineer I was considering hiring to record my band's 2nd cd charges cartage fees to bring his own "audiophile" spkrs./amps to whatever studio you're using simply because his experience has shown that most of 'em have good measuring/bad sounding equipment.
I agree with everything you said..........in addition to the above.
there are 50 that use rotten sounding spkrs./amps chosen because the engineers are sure that stuff that measures flat results in "accurate" sound.
those with AJinFLA's mentality that you cannot hear thousands of op amps in the recording chain? :)
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