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I have just read the MSB Analog review in the April issue of Stereophile where the sonic impressions for MSB were mainly compared to the Benchmark and Ayre Original usb dac.They must be able to do better, otherwise the sonic review is not worthy of taking note. How about the Auralic and other higher end dacs to match the price and facility points of the MSB?
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How could the standards be any lower than they were in the 80s and 90s when every thing Ivor the Great said was taken as the edict of God. No matter how much the piece of Linn gears sucked it was sure to seen as the ultimate. No matter how big the lie the reviewers were on their knees sucking on Ivor's words.
When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it. ~ Bernard Bailey
I promise to return your stuff in a few months.
Just look at Mercman's review in Audiostream.
Could you post a link?
Thanks
http://www.audiostream.com/content/msb-technology-analog-dac-0You need to compare the 2 sonic reviews and find out by reading Merman's expsore to other high end dacs, with one costing twice as much.
One example of a product in the same price range is this:
http://www.audiostream.com/content/calyx-femto-dac
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If I go the rest of my life without a 'wear a diaper' reference like I have seen used for some amplifier reviews, I'll be just fine.
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no diapers foe me
For the first time in a long time visiting this site, I laughed out loud reading that!
Now, where'd I put my Gas-X?
...more solid like old fruitcake bass.
.....the first time I tasted liver.
TAS did a lot of editing on my show report that year and suggested I try to be a bit more kind.
...and their loss.
Check out "The Posh Nosh" on you tube-
Takes descriptive prose to a new level!
"Notes of leather and cotton…."
The 'wear a diaper' reference . Pretty classless.
I always found the astrological signs thing quite charming.
Regards,
Geoff
With DACs in particular it's a fast paced world. Performance has gone through the roof in recent years. You can get a sub-$500 DAC with performance that just boggles the mind making contemplating very expensive alternatives more than a little daunting.
As for evaluating the alternatives, and importantly placing then along a continuum of price/performance/sonic category/etc., you really need to turn to those that have a particular interest in keeping up on developments, and with wide exposure to current offerings. That implies keeping abreast of world wide offerings, and without prejudice to the various distribution mechanism.
I would recommend the writing/opinions of John Grandberg (inner|fidelity, who also writes member reviews as "project86" at Head-Fi), Michael Lavorgna (AudioStream), and John Darko (Digital Audio Review - also writes for 6moons and other publications).
Those lacking a particular interest in this field will almost certainly suffer from a deficit in the big picture and are likely to produce routine boilerplate offerings of questionable value ... or worst practically pee all over themselves upon first exposure to a sub-$500 over performer.
Never trust an Atom, they Make Up everything!
"... to match the price and facility points of the MSB?"
What are you talking about?
Maybe you are simply aggrieved that the mag has not respected your belief in money being the only real measure of equipment...
unless you want to argue as a lawyer.
... chained together, at the bottom of the ocean.
That's right - "good start".
indistinguishable from Moby's ....
<-;)
Never trust an Atom, they Make Up everything!
"First we kill the lawyers."
Cheers,
Al
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comes into play. oh, it may not be perfect but we all use it frequently.
...regards...tr
There are simply practical limitations. A reviewer is limited in a practical sense to comparisons to gear he has or is nearby and the owner will allow him to mess up his system for a comparison.
Ultimately a review is to give you an idea of whether you should follow up the review yourself. In that case you should make the comparisons for yourself. A review should not make a decision for you.
a reviewer does not have the right tools, he or she normally borrows them or gains access to them. Otherwise, the review should not be published by a 'prestige' magazine.
Even free web reviewers have access/exposure to a range of high end gear
"a reviewer does not have the right tools, he or she normally borrows them or gains access to them"
...at which point, the reviewer gets accused of having too many products on long-term loan.
There's no winning strategy with comparisons, IMO. Every comparison is going to be wrong (the comparison product will inevitably be too cheap, too expensive, too obscure, too populist, too different, too similar, too old, too new, too not the product owned by the disgruntled, and so on). If you use the same comparison product every time (because you own the comparison product), it's partisanship, but if you use a different comparison product every time (because you want to set the product in context), it's payola.
My take on this is to perform comparisons in camera unless there's a specific reason to do otherwise. It may not be the most transparent solution, but it's the least wrong in most people's eyes solution.
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Editor, Hi-Fi Plus magazine, Lun-duhnn, Ingerland, innit
I agree, but then some reviewers stand on higher horses than others and that was my point. Why compare a $7000 or more dac with a $3000 'reference' product?
(nt)
I don't stand behind any horse that doesn't do what it purportedly promises, in this case a paid for 'authoritative' review.
You expect too much. You don't just ask for gear to use just as a comparison. It isn't that simple for most, if any reviewers.
fair comparisons of similar products. Even web reviewers of free sites do it.
Clearly our standards are different.
Start your own review magazine. Be sure not to spam anyone.
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