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In Reply to: RE: Copyright posted by fmak on August 18, 2012 at 23:19:44
>>>Why doesn't Stereophile and other US magazines allow Amazon to sell
>>>internationally...
>>
>>I don't know but I will ask. I suspect that it is something to do
>>with copyright.
>
>This belongs to you.
As I said, I will ask. As editor of Stereophile, I am not responsible for
the magazine's circulation, distribution, or subscriptions. The first two
are handled by a division of our parent company in Florida, the last by
an independent company. So I cannot answer you immediately. My
apologies if that frustrates you.
>If Amazon sells in the US, why not in Europe?
>They sell anything and everything here.
I conjectured it was something to do with copyright because, as far as I
can tell from my travels in Europe, sales of other copyrighted products
are handled by independent Amazon companies in each European country.
In the UK, for example, it appears that you have to purchase CDs from
amazon.co.uk, not the American parent company. But I don't have recent
experience and perhaps I am incorrect in this conjecture. Perhaps you
could clarify the situation: as you live in Europe, from whom do you
purchase CDs, the American Amazon site or your local Amazon site?
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Follow Ups:
I buy from amazon uk, de etc. UK Amazon is happy to ship all over Europe.
I cannot see why there should be a bamboo cutain between Amazon US and Amazon UK for magazine subscriptions. eBay US is happy to sell me anything that is listed, although I have to say that there are relatively few US companies who ship at sensible costs via USPS which I have found to be excellent.
> I cannot see why there should be a bamboo curtain between Amazon US and
> Amazon UK for magazine subscriptions.
Here is the explanation I received from Source Interlink Media's VP of
Consumer Marketing:
"[Overseas readers] can purchase the digital edition from amazon, but due
to additional postage costs for the print edition, we do not sell print
through amazon. If they want to order the print edition, they can go to
our website and order directly through us at the below link, [this price]
includes additional postage..."
https://www.circsource.com/store/Subscribe.html?offerId=3571&countryCode=intl
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
> > I cannot see why there should be a bamboo curtain between Amazon US and
> > Amazon UK for magazine subscriptions.
>
> Here is the explanation I received from Source Interlink Media's VP of
> Consumer Marketing...
Perhaps I am feeling out-of-sorts this evening. It is now a week since
I posted a response from our circulation department to fmak's question,
a question he had asked repeatedly and one that I assumed he felt strongly
about, having started a related thread. But he hasn't paid me the
courtesy of even acknowledging my response, let alone replying to it.
Look guys, I try to answer questions out me on this forum as best I can,
but I am beginning to wonder why I do so when the person putting the
question to me appears to be nothing more than a troll. :-(
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
"But he hasn't paid me the
courtesy of even acknowledging my response, let alone replying to it."
Because to some there is no pleasure in having their whinging curtailed.
You've answered fmak's circulation queries, but that's not good enough John.
Only an admission of guilt on your part (and an apology) will sate his needs.
Just take full responsibility now. You'll feel better.
You should check with Amazon on that. I tried to order a sound card from Amazon UK because it wasn't available here, and they wouldn't sell. In that case, their concern was likely with distribution rights and the inequitable pricing policies that companies have, whereby a product can be much more expensive in one region than another. I imagine it isn't worth their while to work this out with the manufacturer or distributor for every retail product they sell, so they simply black out purchases from other regions. In this case, I imagine it has to do with rights management and copyright.
As I understand it, most original content is owned by the creators, e.g. an author or photographer. Unless their work was a "work for hire" this would not be the magazine. The creator sells rights to his content by a contract which gives the magazine a license to use the content in certain ways. Often, these contracts will include sales and distribution in a limited region of the world. In addition to copyright concerns, there may also be trademark issues, since the same physical symbol may be owned by different legal entities in different countries.
I had some business dealings with a Canadian purveyor of books some years ago. Because Canada was part of the Commonwealth they gained access to new books published in Britain before these became available in the United States and they were able to charge a premium for these books because of this. It struck me as a bit of a scam at the time, but then all copyrights and patents can be considered a scam if one is so inclined.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
> I cannot see why there should be a bamboo cutain between Amazon US and
> Amazon UK for magazine subscriptions.
As I said, I conjecture that it might be due to copyright considerations,
which is the case with music. But perhaps it might be just due to Amazon
wanting too much of the revenue. As I also said but you seem determined
to ignore, I don't know but I will try to find out.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
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