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In Reply to: RE: 150,000 advertisment? posted by Mike Mc on June 12, 2012 at 05:16:46
The amount of gold used in gold plating is rather trivial. Most of the cost goes to preparing the work piece so that the gold does not merely highlight surface imperfections.
If you take a one-inch cube of 24-Kt. gold and use only physical means to flatten it out (i.e., make gold leaf out of it), that one-inch cube can cover a football field.
Dissolving gold in a plating bath is even more efficient. I doubt that there is more than a few grams, not ounces, on that TT.
I am no expert, but, generations ago, my family was in the jewelry-finding business.
Ciao,
M
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Nothing wrong with that, if the value is there. Seems that is where the gold plate products sell, and where a lot of the money is these days. But does it "do" anything?
A larger concern is solving one aspect of TT design and thinking all possible problems are solved.. For example, what about belt creep issues with a single motor table?
Steve
This thread is simply absurd for so many reasons but to answer one question: the review of the Onedof is not an 'advertisement' any more than any review is an "advertisement." Of course there are non-critical reviews that gush and are filled with superlatives and those can be considered either advertisements or publicity blurbs but the fact that Mr. Bakman has only produced one turntable (but is quite capable of producing as many as might be ordered) does not mean the review is an "advertisement" nor is there any logical connection between a shelf full of turntables ready to ship and but one in existence and whether or not a review is an 'advertisement'.
If you go to the Onedof website and read through Mr. Bakman's achievements it should be quite obvious that he can produce more should the demand develop. The most difficult part was developing the parts and getting the machining accomplished. The plans remain in the machinist's computer...
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Short’s the best position they is. Bullet in the Brain
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Hi John. My point was, minus the bling factor there doesn't seem to be a lot to this 'table. It doesn't have the killer engineering of a Walker or SME.
The comment about the "killer" engineering in the Walker turntable is particularly absurd.
The Walker turntable began life in the 1970s as the Mapleknoll turntable. The arm began life as the earliest version of the Eminent Technology arm. It was designed by Bruce Thigpen. Over the years, Mr. Walker has taken the Mapleknoll arm, with its large horizontal mass and annular gap turbulence and made substantial modifications to the original design.
Will someone please explain to me what "killer engineering" is found on the Walker turntable? What it appears to be is a heavily modified version of a very old engineering design using lots of mass. Lots of modification "tweaks" but "killer engineering?" I need to know what that might be.
That doesn't mean the 'table doesn't sound good but the actual "engineering" was done decades ago. The tweaking has gone on for decades.
Clearly you have not read the review I carefully wrote or you would understand that the bearing Mr. Bakman has invented is UNIQUE and is pure engineering brilliance. In fact it's "killer". But what else would you expect from a guy who was instrumental in designing the wing support system for Boeing's Dreamliner. Go to the Onedof website and read about the guy and perhaps you'll refrain from making foolish comments.
First off Michael, you are right of course, it was an absurd statement. When one posts, and it's ill considered you have to bend over and take it.
Ouch. "Please Sir, may I have another."
Still don't see 150K though. Apologies in advance. Bracing for impact.
I do like AnalogPlanet though.
Describe killer engineering ?????
Hi Zako. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not implying that the Onedof isn't a fantastically engineered table. For $150k, plus arm and cartridge I'd want it to select the tunes and fix me a drink.
Can you honestly see twice the value of, for instance, a Walker Proscenium Black Diamond III?
However, I'd be happy with either to replace my Heybrook TT2-Mission 774.
My argument is Stereophile stooping so low in giving a review to some one not providing the dealers with a product... Would Atkinson now give me the same curticy ????? LETS GET IN LINE,,,and see whose next..
Well disregarding the Stereophile review, oops I mean the "formal" review, policy (which has such a convenient easy out), you need to look at the companies the maker shows his product with at audio shows.Perhaps then you're reflect on "stooping so low". :)
Short’s the best position they is. Bullet in the Brain
Edits: 06/14/12
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