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In Reply to: RE: Did you just break all of the rules for manufacturers? posted by Sordidman on May 18, 2011 at 11:09:19
I think those rules don't apply for sponsoring organizations?
When I paid AudioAsylum a lot of money for advertising banners I was told to register with Coconut-Audio in my name.
Here is my banner in the bottom.
And I also got my own forum: http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/coconut/
Also, if any rules are broken they can move this thread into my Coconut-Audio forum, no problems. However, nobody seems to be posting there, I don't know why.
Maybe the extremely insane $$$$$$$$ your trying to sell the items for has something to do with the lack of interest. Just a thought......
First, the forum is new. No one even notices it.
Second, your products are insanely overpriced, even if you do discount.
Third, they are funky looking, and not in a nice way. They LOOK homemade, and not very professsional. Like some kid made them up. They do have possibilities on the design front though.
Fourth, folks can make the same thing nearly for free. Because of that, no one in thier right mind would buy one, unless they are the same types to buy "Teleportation tweaks etc. And then they are either too rich and blowing it on a lark, or not in thier right mind and just happen to be (still) wealthy. (lunatics usually do not 'stay' wealthy for long, unless they are REALLY wealthy, or someone is watching over them)
Your product looks mildly interesting, the prices are laughable. i made 5 copies of a 'basically' similar but different product for the cost of a bunch of ferrite cores at $0.35 each times 23 cores is $8.05 plus local taxes, and some scrap wire i had laying around, and the work took about an hour real time. Of course MY ideas are also worth $100,000. an hour, so to sell mine i would be charging a nominal $20,000. each. ;)
(i consider the wire and ferrite free, the IDEA is what costs... too bad dozens of other folks have the same idea.) LOL.
I see your pricing structure has vanished from your site. No wonder about that.
Now another company is offering a third 'similar' product for $30 a pair. Now if you had started out with some price in that range, you might not be in the tizzy you are now over the lack of 'appreciation' here.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on the possible cultural differences that may be playing a roll in this situation.
And the fact you have some interesting ideas.
So take what i say with whatever grain of salt to make it go down
You have my sympathy on the difficult entrance you have had in the AA.
"Second, your products are insanely overpriced, even if you do discount."
I give a 60 day money back guarantee, so far only one person has returned a VibraPortal because it sounded too tight for him, I refunded 100% money and even the shipping cost, so I lost money on it. The other customers are very satisfied and want to buy more.
"Third, they are funky looking, and not in a nice way. They LOOK homemade, and not very professsional."
Does a seashell look homemade too? How about the forest? It doesn't look professionally made with all those branches and leaves randomly placed...
Forest has existed for millions of years and nobody has got tired of that design. But with professional designs and fashion, it comes and goes, it's not good for long-term business. My products are built to last thousands of years, I repeatedly dropped GroundHanger and VibraPortal from my table, they never break.
"Fourth, folks can make the same thing nearly for free."
You can find a stone on a beach for free, but the content inside is not the same.
I priced my products when comparing against the competition. I was using $200,000 systems and now I get better sound with something cheaper. IMO $7,995 for GroundHanger Alpha Centauri is a bargain if you like neutral sound with no weaknesses, it's dead neutral and doesn't lean towards any sound signature, it's great for long-term enjoyment. I previously used 11 units of Acoustic Revive RGC-24 Ground Conditioners costing $8,800, it was dark and veiled with one single sound signature that became boring to listen to. I have found that when using one type of sound signature, it takes away the potential for 3 dimensionality and microdetail complexity. I liked Nordost Valhalla cables at first, but then the veil started bothering me, after a few years I couldn't stand it any longer. When buying colored devices, it's a life long journey of side stepping.
I'm not using ferrite cores, capacitors, inductors or resistors, they weren't originally built for audio, I have invented new technology designed specifically for audio that is better and has a more organic sound. I have done everything by ear and no tools. The publisher of Stereo Times said my products sound sweet and organic, that is how music should sound like.
The CableRing was originally designed as a budget tweak, but then I compared it against LessLoss Blackbody and got shocked that CableRing was better in my system. I lost $230 from returning my new Blackbody after that lesson. I'm curious if this is true in other systems as well.
What new technology might that be ? I get suspicious when people say "new Technology" and just leave it at that, can you explain it in some detail ? judging by the looks of some of the items they could be a bag of Sand or pouch of Playdough. the tube looks like a cloth sweatband I'm curious what could be in the tubes , sacks, bags , pouches etc. that is so sensitive that a drop of glue could throw the whole technology off and make it cease to work properly .
I highly doubt Coconut Audio will reveal to you a patent pending science behind this new technology! But I will pass on this generation of products and wait until new technology is incorporated to further improve music background to cashmere-onyx levels.
The 20,000 interdenominational drivers have me intrigued too. Can't wait!
A bag of sand will add a sound signature to the music which is fatiguing. It will emphasize certain frequencies in the music and make it flat and lifeless. I have done a lot of experimenting with isolation feet comparing against a magnetically levitating system. When audio system is floating in air it sounds veiled and smeared, placing 100 lbs of weight on top increases grip and makes it sound tighter and clearer with a blacker background and more microdetail. I tried this with dCS Elgar Plus DAC in picture above.
A certain type of material has only one strength and the rest are weaknesses. The goal is to use only one material to remove one frequency of noise, this means that you need 20,000 noise cleaners within the unit to get perfect audio. You need to do the same with the speakers by using 20,000 drivers inside, this is my future project. The problem is that all drivers are not in the exact same position, therefore I need to invent interdimensional speakers with 1 driver per dimension, the speakers switch between 20,000 dimensions when playing back music.
My new technology that replaced capacitors, inductors and resistors has been done purely by ear, and I have not given it a name yet. I use tweezers and digital scale with 0.01 gram accuracy. I could hear a difference of 0.02 grams in blind testing. I use a lot of natural materials, the same ones they use in computer microprocessors, except I don't chemically treat them because it reduces sound quality.
Now i KNOW where this guys bread is buttered and it is not pretty...
Liz yours are not the same thing , a surgeon produced these , the man almost dropped dead on the factory floor from the stress of building some of the items , have a heart .....
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