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• Fulton Cables 59" long - Norm 20:30:16 02/27/02 (0)
  In Reply to: welding cable for speakers posted by vivid 2 on February 27, 2002 at 13:37:58:

  I bought them and sold them. On Fulton Js with his suitcase amp, they were great, or so I thought at the time. At 59" baboons in the zoo reacted to distress calls in speaker!!!!
  
  

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• Re: welding cable for speakers - welly 18:53:53 02/27/02 (0)
  In Reply to: welding cable for speakers posted by vivid 2 on February 27, 2002 at 13:37:58:

  I remember that, while looking through the RS Components catalogue, they had a picture of the welding cable they sell and either the picture is VERY bad or the copper used is is pretty crappy because it appears to be almost black in the picture.

  While we're on the subject of unusual materials for HI-Fi cables, does anybody remember another "recommendation" from the 80's (in the uk hifi press at least) was to use solder as interconnects. As I recall there was no insulation involved, just carefully lay the cores after connection.
  

  
  Smoke me a kipper...I'll be Back for Breakfast.

  Cheers

  welly
  
  

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• Re: welding cable for speakers - Jon Risch 17:10:47 02/27/02 (0)
  In Reply to: welding cable for speakers posted by vivid 2 on February 27, 2002 at 13:37:58:

  Welding cables will have very high inductance, and thus roll-off the HF's to a noticable extent.

  Yes, this will superficially sound good on a harsh digital source, but this is a band-aid, and not a cure.
  Once you start using such high inductance cables, then you find yourself trapped in a vicious circle of seeking out bright components to compensate for it, and truly neutral sources don't sound right, they sound too dull.

  Also, the huge diameter of the copper conductors makes the skin effect very much present, and usually results in the sound seeming less clear due to the time smear involved. A more subtle effect than the sheer inductance, but present none-the-less.
  
  Jon Risch
  
  

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• Re: welding cable for speakers - HDAudio 14:35:52 02/27/02 (0)
  In Reply to: welding cable for speakers posted by vivid 2 on February 27, 2002 at 13:37:58:

  Actually I think it was more during the mid 70's. This may in part be due to the Fulton Gold speaker cables. I remember doing a listening comparison of a customer's clone. Our store had given him an inch of Fulton Gold which he took apart and counted the number of strands and produced his clone. The clone was produced from welding cable components.

  In a comparison of the two cables, using the following equipment:

  Fulton J speakers
  ARC amp and preamp
  Linn Sondek LP12 with Grace 707 arm and Shure V15G cartridge
  Playing Sheffield Lab Wagner recording

  The Fulton Gold cables allowed us to hear instruments not present when the clone wires were used.
  
  

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• Poor choice - audioengr 14:20:27 02/27/02 (0)
  In Reply to: welding cable for speakers posted by vivid 2 on February 27, 2002 at 13:37:58:

  They are much too large to get really low inductance and skin-effects will abound. Also these will suffer seriously from stranding effects. Multiple smaller conductors work better IMO.

  If you want to use a cable as a tone-control, these will probably work.
  
  

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