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In Reply to: RE: is there a better DIY speaker cable than the Jon Risch twisted CC 89259 speaker cable posted by Carl G on August 08, 2015 at 21:20:45
These OCC speaker cables have excellent user reviews and only $120.00.
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@RadioWonder...Was looking at the Choseal(LB5110) a few months ago. They called it the poorman's cardas. Any experience in how they sound?Thanks!
Edits: 08/09/15
Like I said in my post, I have not listened to any of the Speaker Cables from this company...
If you listen to this YouTube video, you can make up your own mind...
If I purchased a pair, I would condition them on my Audiodharma Cable Cooker for 4 to 5 days...
Have you used/heard these?
I would be skeptical since the advertising I can find online does not provide other key information such as wire gauge, dielectric, or geometry which, IMO, all play a larger role in the sound of a speaker cable than the use of OCC copper.
Product Description
Choseal LB-5109
OD19mm*2.5m
High Definition Home Theater Cables
24K gold-plated banana plugs
99.9999% 6N OCC
100% Spiral Wound Bare Copper Shield
Connectors:Banana Plug - Banana Plug.
Low-impedance low-loss low-distortion
Weight: 4.5KG...
+++++++++
I trust this company because I purchased a pair of their Solid Silver Sennheiser Headphone Cables... Less than $100.00 and wonderfully sounding cables... Much better than stock cables...
Plus you have three user reviews... Two are verified purchaser...
If $120 is too much they have an even cheaper pair for $85.90...
Like other Chinese products introduced into the marketplace, description of materials and design can be woefully inadequate, and often misleading and sloppy, if not downright deceptive. This is not to say I don't purchase Chinese products, since I use a modded TeraDak DAC and a Breeze Audio PSU in my computer workstation system, and find them to be audiophile quality.
However, I don't tolerate fake branding of parts and look-alike builds that don't deliver the goods, since this practice can only dumb-down the audiophile notion of high-end gear within a marketplace that should demand credibility.
As for the Choseal LB-5109, it's offered as an original product, so the only deception might be whether or not the conductor is OCC rather than OFC. Additionally, there is no mention of the particular dielectric, so it could be mundane PVC rather than those of a lower dielectric constant. There is also no mention of solid core or stranded conductors nor cable geometry other than a "100% Spiral Wound Bare Copper Shield". Shielding is a design factor usually implemented for line-level interconnect designs rather than speaker cables which may suffer from poor dynamics even more so than a shielded line-level interconnect often will vs. unshielded cables.
just my 2 cents
The photo shows spade lugs, but the description says banana plugs. They aren't the same, you know.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
In addition to what Duster points out, the main omission, to me, is that I cannot find the wire gauge anywhere in the literature. Some would argue that is the single most factor affecting the performance of speaker cables, particularly if it is inadequate. Therefore, if I were in the market for the Choseal LB-5109 wire, I wouldn't even know how much copper I would be getting. The price is immaterial to me since, if the product doesn't meet my needs it is a bad deal, no matter how little it costs.
I agree; the specific effective gauge of a particular speaker cable is an even more fundamental omission. Indication of that factor is so essential, it didn't even cross my mind at the time...
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