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In Reply to: RE: Low priced speaker cables comparison posted by 69076 on July 02, 2015 at 18:48:17
with his hands-on experience, that the Audioquest SLiP needs 150+ hours of burn-in, you are still holding to your first day's sonic impressions of this cable, from 3 days (or 70-some hours) ago.
Hmmm...
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"Nope, it got worse actually"
That's an odd thing to say if you don't believe in cable burn-in. Apparently a brand new cable taken right off the spool sounds "fresher" to your ear. Perhaps there is a previously unknown phenomenon folks should be aware of...
Note: To be fair, sometimes the presentation of a brand new cable can go back in forth during the initial burn-in process, with a number of identifiable sonic artifacts to observe before more optimal burn-in time is achieved (including audible results of an intensive cable cooking process).
Since you are so closed minded towards something observable like the cable burn-in process, your low-cost speaker cable comparison has little credibility. You are obviously not interested in subtle micro level and not-so-subtle macro level audiophile listening cues. It's well known how important patience can be when it comes to the burn-in process, as well as the break-in process of loudspeakers and components, for that matter which includes internal wiring, not to mention capacitors which need plenty of burn-in time in order to perform at their best.
With such a plug-and-play mentality involved in the process, you said nothing insightful about your comparative cable evaluation. A worthlessly vague opinion of whatever you deem to be 'natural' sounding can't be much value to those who seek actual insights in regards to a comparative cable evaluation process. Much of what you described as 'colored' or 'weird' sounding was likely due in part to the lack of proper burn-in time provided for all of those brand new bloody cables you went on to disrespect out of spite. Think about it. Tossing something into an audio system while expecting to be impressed from the get-go is not a rewarding way to enjoy the audiophile journey, IME.
BTW, to take a poke at cable advocates in Cable Asylum like a knuckle-headed naysayer says more about you as an opinion maker than anything else. As far as people dismissing direct experimental evidence and trusting their beliefs instead, I've logged more time evaluating and experimenting through direct experience of various cables than you might imagine, without 'belief' involved in the evaluation process. Don't feel so free insult those who post in Cable Asylum.
Additionally, to accuse the cable industry of selling "horrible sound at expensive prices" is just another ignorant statement. Such a broad-brush accusation from someone such as yourself who has so little experience of the topic indicates nothing more than a foolish attitude. Pricey cables and connectors in my main audio system, as well as second systems deserve their extra expense. This is based on very dedicated, long-term experiences.
'nuff said
In the days before my colleagues and I acquired cable burn-in devices, that could happen.
In 1993-94, I purchased several identical 1-meter Kimber PBJ single-ended interconnects. With my Theta/Classe'/B&K/Muse/Adcom electronics, a fresh-out-of-the-bag PBJ could sound whiz-bang exciting. And then, after a couple of days, its sound would become a little duller and uninspiring. That is why we users needed to exercise patience, and wait a week or two longer, before the (non-treated) PBJ settled to a certain level.
Those same sort of changes took place, when we started using XLO Reference and Signature interconnects.
But, as anyone who has actually tried a cable burn-in device can tell you, NO amount of regular playing time equates to what a mere day on a burn-in device does.
It was really telling. In 2003, when we initially got an audiodharma Cable Cooker, we treated various 1-meter Kimber PBJs. We kept some pairs untreated, and then treated others, in 1-day, 2-day, 3-day, and 4-day increments. In this manner, we were able to discern the effects of the Cable Cooker.
Lo and behold, a Cooked (3 days) PBJ was less objectionable than an untreated Kimber KCAG with 10 years of regular use.
Indeed, though this Cable Cooker has undergone some upgrades, it's been in pretty much constant use, for 12 years. We are regularly using it, to Cook throwaway patchcords, speaker wire, video cables, and powercords - with amazing results. I'm currently reviewing Simaudio's Neo 260D CD player/DAC. For now, I've only had 6 different people inquire about the Neo 60D. But I've told all 6 that, before they mess around with after-market powercords, they first should get the OEM jobbie Cooked.
Apparently, the latest version of the Cable Cooker works better. That is, it takes less time to burn-in a cable, and does so without the telltale signs of over-Cooking: dull, slow, bloated, rolled-off sound. In his case, yes, an over-Cooked cable will sound worse, before it gets better, and reaches its resting plateau.
My Signal Cable speaker cables displaced Audioquest, Kimber and Anti Cables. Easily.
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