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Yes, that Mogami, this is from Mogami founder's personal website.
Backed up by math formulas too...
Does Litz work or not: The answer is beyond amazing.
http://www.intex.tokyo/e/puzzle/pzl-21.html
Another close related:
http://www.intex.tokyo/e/puzzle/pzl-25.html
http://www.intex.tokyo/e/puzzle/index.html
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These papers do not tell the whole story, but look at one aspect in isolation. Thus they mislead due to incomplete information.
You wrote in another post in this thread:
"That works, but insulating the individual wires are not needed."
That is just plain wrong, Litz wire must be insulated for it to operate as designed. If you do not understand that, then you do not understand what Litz wire really is, or it's operating principal.
You wrote:
"Litz is just a poorly designed waveguide..."
This is also not true, and again, underscores your lack of understanding of the actual principles involved.
These statements, which prove you do not know what you are talking about, AND the other comments you have made regarding high end cables,
you wrote
"Explains the cable industry today and their horrible sound at expensive prices... Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted."
along with the obvious mentality of "cheap Belden commercial speaker cable" is good enough, combine to show your true intentions.
I give you ONE warning:
see the following links:
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/d.mpl?audio/cables.html
and:
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/d.mpl?audio/dbt.html
Be very careful what you post in the future, as there will be little tolerance for someone who is pretending to follow the rules, yet has a negative agenda.
Cable Asylum Moderator,
Jon Risch
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I think it's important to realize that this paper says that simply splitting say a 1mm wire into lots of thinner insulated wires does not affect skin effect at all. He does mention that the winding techniques do - and this is the key. Litz wire needs to be wound in such a way that the individual strands spend time on the surface and in the center of the bundle. Then skin effect can be reduced.
I believe you are referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide ?That works, but insulating the individual wires are not needed.
The implication is profound.
Edits: 06/30/15
Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litz_wire
Quote:
It consists of many thin wire strands, individually insulated and twisted or woven together, following one of several carefully prescribed patterns often involving several levels (groups of twisted wires are twisted together, etc.). This winding pattern equalizes the proportion of the overall length over which each strand is at the outside of the conductor.
End quote
It's the twisting that really does the trick, but you need the wires to be insulated for it to work properly.
What's what the waveguide does, by having no center conductor. All the conductor is on the outside. No insulation is needed.Litz is just a poorly designed waveguide...
Also, I believe Belden Iconoclast has a square conductor design for this reason. They are the few people that actually know what they are doing and can back it up with math.
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I don't know about 'poorly designed' - they have different uses. For instance, you'd never get a waveguide bendy enough that you can use as wire..you think solid core wires are stiff - try waveguides !
Also, at a physics level, I don't believe that waveguides and properly made litz wire work in the same way. For waveguides, the geometry is critical - the width needs to be same sort of size as the wavelength. And typically they are only useful at very high freqs, like microwave. Litz wire is not frequency-specific and works at much lower freqs; it's operation is based on the magnetic and electric fields generated by AC.
And waveguides are not conductors as such. It makes as much sense to say that waveguides are poorly designed litz wire..as their resistance is too high ;)
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