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In Reply to: RE: Any new budget friendly bulk power cable for diy? posted by 430cruz on April 25, 2015 at 11:52:24
If you can raise your budget a bit, the Oyaide PA-23 bulk power cord has been called a poor man's Acrolink power cord. It features 14 AWG single crystal OCC copper conductors, a floating foil shield (no drain wire to terminate), audiophile quality dielectric with resonance control, and a carbon loaded layer for energy storage dissipation. Priced at $62 per meter = $217 for 3.5 meters (11.5 feet).
BTW, the Oyaide PA-23 is the least expensive bulk power cord product worthy of premium Oyaide 004 Beryllium AC connectors, IME.
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Duster, I've looked around and haven't found a source that I'm familiar with for the Oyaide PA-23, or they no longer have stock. Also seems that Oyaide has a cloning issue so is there anyone you can point me towards?
I think Chris VenHaus of VH Audio could special order it for you, including allowing a 0.5 meter increment so you don't have to buy 4 meters when you only need 3.5 meters. Not all sellers allow bulk cable orders that involve 0.5 meter increments. I'm only aware of fake Oyaide AC connectors; I've not come across any fake Oyaide cables from online sellers.
Duster,
Thank you. That one was never on my radar at all and could stretch a bit if it were well worth the few extra coins. (Which in fact you just commented on in your post as I was typing this.) I wonder if my cheapie Wattgates are up to task with this cable?
Truly, I need to keep this little project under control 'cause I know me all to well. What starts as a $100 item ends up costing $1000 somehow??? and it always starts with that "if you can stretch your budget just a bit" line. No disrespect to you at all !!. I'm sitting here laughing / remembering my days as an audio salesman when I'd get a budding audiophile on the hook looking at Adcom, Carver or NAD separates and I'd keep'em nibbling as we looked at the Nakamichi and Forte' stuff. "If you can stretch your budget a bit more?"..........there we'd be, in the land of Krell, Levinson, Audio Research, Wadia, Classe'............good times back then.
While an economy Wattgate won't allow the kind of performance premium AC connectors tend to provide, I think you would find the Oyaide PA-23 still provides improved performance vs. lower-budget options. Perhaps you would consider upgrading the economy Wattgate AC connectors with premium AC connectors sometime in the future.
Thanks Duster, I'll send Chris an email to see if he could do it.
As for the plugs, I figured they'd be the dictator, of sorts, with what kind of performance wire I'd bother stepping up to. That's why I set my budget fairly low, to match the level of the plugs on hand here.
To me, it's like putting PepBoys house brand tires on my AMG instead of Michelin Pilot Super Sports........total mismatch. Yeah I can drive it but it'll never be what the car is capable of.
Your reasoning is insightful, but there's no need to dumb down one aspect of a design just because another aspect is not high performance. Even humble audiophile devices can benefit from high performance parts and tweaks. However, I think you are correct regarding the notion of never knowing what the Oyaide PA-23 bulk power cable is capable of unless premium AC connectors are implemented. But I think it's a better investment to obtain a product that offers future upgrade path potential as well as resale value. That said, from a distinctly high performance standpoint, I wasn't satisfied with the Oyaide PA-23 for use with a DAC in a second system until it was re-terminated with an Oyaide P-004 Beryllium AC plug and Oyaide C-079 Gold IEC connector. I would be disappointed in myself if you were unsatisfied with the Oyaide PA-23 when terminated with economy Wattgate AC connectors. Therefore, I suppose the disclaimer "YMMV" is appropriate at this time.
Duster, I just spent that last 10 minutes scrolling through your system. If it's a current reflection of what you have going on now, then I totally understand where you are at and where your advise is coming from. You have some nice gear there, several of which I owned in the past. I was there and beyond to a scary degree.
(ps, that 18k pre was huge surprise at its price and can't imagine what it's like now with your mods.)
You're right about not dumbing it down for the sake of the Wattgate plugs, they can always be upgraded down the road and would keep your advise/recommendations in mind. It's possible that they'll do fine with my current gear and can always upgrade plugs later. If this had been for one of my older kilo-bucks systems then I'd be all over your suggestions but this is for much more humble system. And I will always take suggestions with the knowledge "YMMV" whether said or not :)
Your Nordost Vishnu power cords seem to be terminated with either economy Wattgate or Marinco AC connectors. If it's reasonable to use economy AC connectors for a Nordost power cord, terminating the Oyaide PA-23 with the same type of AC connector might also be a reasonable thing to consider. However, I don't know the sonic signature of the Nordost Vishnu power cord, so the same "YMMV" disclaimer still applies. I know it can be difficult work within a budget, but it can be a worthwhile thing to extend a budget if it's still affordable. A quintessential audiophile budget adjuster is an AC outlet upgrade when a new power cord is introduced within a system. It may depend on how far one wishes to take their system, one way or another, and how valuable that goal might be to a listener.
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