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In Reply to: RE: Nordost vs. Nordost posted by trcnetmsncom on December 12, 2014 at 09:14:17
While the use of cables in a system is a personal thing, and one that brings endless debate, I can at least offer what I have observed in my system. I was using mostly Tyr II, Heimdall and some Valhalla until about a year and a half ago. At that time I started upgrading and doing so with my primary, most used components. I first purchased three Odin cables- the main power cord feeding the power conditioner first, then speakers, then the AES / EBU XLR digital cable between the music server and DAC. I then switched to Valhalla 2 mainly because of the cost. Let's face it, Odin is wildly expensive. I see V2 as being about 80% of Odin sonically at less than half the cost. V2 is highly resolving and very revealing. I believe that V2 will make a balanced system really sound remarkable, as well as illuminating system weaknesses. By no means are they the only brand of cables to do so, but be sure that they will. If you are a fan of Nordost cables, as I am, V2 is a great way to go. Of course, even V2 is not all that inexpensive but if your choice is between Odin and V2, and unless you want to sink about $150K in an all Odin cable loom, I would not hesitate to use V2.
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Thank you Paul. You were a BIG help! I would not even be considering Odin, but a exceptional opportunity has come my way on some speaker cables. I would have to do it blind and resell them if they didn't work out for me. Something I'm really not into doing. I'm positive they're not fake or cut Odin so I just may go for it.Thanks again.
Tom
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Tom,
You are welcome. Hopefully I was able to provide some useful insight. If the opportunity you mention is for a legitimate Odin cable, and the price is agreeable, I would certainly give it a lot of consideration. But be careful, I have been told many times by several people at Nordost that their one big problem is counterfeit cables, especially in the more expensive series of cables. If it looks like too good of a deal, you might be better off asking for some documentation proving it is a legitimate Nordost product. And if you have any concern as to it's lineage, it might be better to walk away. However, if your source can be trusted, I really think you will love what Odin can do. It is quite a remarkable product.
I've reviewed the Nordost Odin interconnects, speaker cable, and powercord.I have not had any experience with the Valhalla 2 line, so I am not at liberty to comment.
I can say, however, that going from Odin back to the regular original Valhalla was depressing. My colleagues and I noticed that the Valhalla, even after Cooked, has a whitish coloration. It's like scraping your knees on concrete. You don't really notice it, until you've tried the clear and lucid Odin. But once you do notice the Valhalla's coloration, it's hard to ignore or look past it.
Be warned that the Odin is about passing signal as quickly as possible. That may or may not work for you. My colleagues and I have experience with other car-priced cables. They're all different. While the Tara Labs Gold and MIT Oracles aren't as lightning fast as Nordost Odin, they do other aspects of music reproduction better. And even here in this thread, another guy gets excellent results with Transparent Cable. Contrary to what you may have read from "professional" reviews, the Nordost Odin is not the be-all, end-all.
All of our Odin products had the serial numbers engraved into the wooden blocks.
Maybe once a month, someone will ask me about the Odin line. Was I richer, for having lived with them? You bet! But do I miss the Odins? Not really. Through all that, did I get any closer to the music via the Odins, versus other (also pricey, though) cable looms? No.
The Audiophiles' DJ,
-Lummy The Loch Monster
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One additional thought I had while checking out the Nordost website...NASA is mentioned and some other high tech applications are mentioned as the origination of their designs. No mention of live music, a love of music or an in house evaluation system. Only tech talk! Quite a contrast to Transparent who's products were born of musicians and there love of music and who have quite an elaborate evaluation system in house. They also support a symphony and attend live concerts frequently in addition to playing instruments themselves. Just saying:)
dave_b
There is a fine line between resolving detail and over accentuating low level cues over the musical content . Live music often has very little detail but gobs of dynamics and blended harmonic bliss! Too much sinew is hard to take .
dave_b
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