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In Reply to: RE: You made the wrong decision posted by ahendler on July 02, 2014 at 22:39:13
I wrote "PERHAPS you deserve abuse" and I meant it in a sort of jocular way to goad you into producing your own review. Sorry you took offense. Wow, I guess you really paid attention to that previous thread. I was not trying to abuse Winston, and it's true that I don't think he deserved it. I found some others' posts to be unnecessarily cruel and crude, but that's an issue I'd rather not pursue.
Yes, of course a better device might avoid distortion caused by a lesser device it replaces, but no device can REMOVE distortion. No magic crystals, no purified copper wires, no number of kegs (whatever those are), can improve a signal. That seemed to be what Winston was claiming, and the snake oil approach is what set me off. I did not dispute his overall favorable impression of the cords, but only the exaggerated properties he assigned to them. It would be quite foolish, as many others have needlessly pointed out here and elsewhere, to argue against a product one has not personally auditioned.
Looking forward to your review, so long as it doesn't state that these cords make awful recordings sound wonderful. Even mad scientists cannot find a way to do that, especially with just a power cord. I won't argue that it can't make a system sound better, but no one should claim that it can fix something that's already broken.
Peace,
Tom E
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not even knowing what the hell you are talking about....not very wise in my opinion, but then that's only my opinion.
The power coming down the AC line is suppose to be either 50 or 60 cycles. It is not suppose to have RF and noise riding along with it. We know, if fact, that there is noise on the AC line. All noise is distortion...distortion is a form of noise....either measured or noticed with our ears. This is the whole purpose of line conditioning....to remove the noise and distortion. The MSA power cords are power line conditioners built into a power cord. What people are describing is a lowering of noise (distortion). If you do not filter it then it gets amplified and radiated by the components down stream....and....into your ears.
So, a power line conditioner or in this case a power cord with a line conditioner built in can lower noise and DISTORTION. This is not snake oil talk.
Granted there can be noise on the AC line. I would agree that, if not removed, the noise can be amplified and will degrade the sound. I disagree that all noise is distortion, except in the very broadest sense of being an unwanted addition to the original signal. The two are measured and quantified separately. Noise is certainly not wanted, but that doesn't make it distortion. I maintain that there is not a device that will reduce distortion present in a musical signal without affecting the signal.
If a filter removes noise from the AC line, it probably will make your system sound better, or at least different. Conversely, I have heard a power filter, quite expensive and bulky, suck the air and life out of a system, and I didn't care a whit whether it removed noise or not. I am not aware that there is any type of filter that will make a bad recording sound good, which is what the original review claimed. If a recording sounds bad simply because of noise on the line, you've got bigger problems than power cords.
I recognize that you're pretty far ahead of me in technical knowledge, and I appreciate your insightful contribution to the discussion. I restate that I believe power cords will change the sound of most components, but they cannot make miraculous improvements to bad recordings. That's the snake oil part.
Peace,
Tom E
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