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In Reply to: RE: Follow up.. posted by rick_m on July 02, 2014 at 20:50:50
I have posted on this before: the BD products need a break in time. In general a couple of hours at least. Curiously when it sounds horrible at first (bloated tubby bass)it breaks in to produce superior sound, at least IMHE.
Of course YMMV n FWIW
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Hi Stu,
The cord has been connected for days with some run-time. The input voltage was applied continuously but during the Summer I've gotten into turning off the amplifiers when I'm not listening very much.
I'm just using a sample rigged onto a power cord and from what Bob P. says that has turned out to be an iffy indicator of the results from the real filters.
Best, Rick
To be honest, Bob and I have had differing opinions in the year or so I have been a dealer. Differing components, different tastes, different sound rooms all contribute to differences in sound preferences. That is norma and to be expected as Nothing is perfect and everyone is an expert on his particular tastes.
Still, Bob has shown a willingness to work with me and modify and experiment based on my own experiences which I communicate freely with him. Of course, he has rejected many of my suggestions but then has also incorporated a few. For an inventor I believe that shows remarkable open mindedness and it certainly means that the ego aspect is a bit more subdued in Bob than in some other designers I have had the opportunity to work with, a trait I value extremely highly.
The break in aspect is one such thing. I find I need a couple of hours on many BD products. Bob is puzzled and says he does not hear any such radical changes as I have experienced. I do have one advantage over Bob though, I run a little shop so my exposure to miscellaneous components is far greater than what Bob can experience.
Again YMMV and FWIW
Hi,
Curious how the MSA cords differ soundwise from Virtual Dynamics or the Luminous Mega-Lynx, which IIRC also use magnets. My system includes an Exactpower EP15A AC regenerator, and I was initially surprised (!) that the power cord from wall to the Exactpower had an easily heard effect on resulting sound of Arcam FMJ36 CD player, (ca. 1990) Merrill turntable and Gill Alana preamp plugged into it. Now using a Triode Wire 8+ on the Exactpower and a variety of power cords (Aargh!!) on the other components -- Omegra Mikro on CD player (that was a splurge...), and Mojo Enigma with Furutech FI-15 plugs on the preamp. Other power cords available include the WyWires (which, while good, can be a bit "midrange-y" with certain components), and a TELwire 14 ga (which was excellent with a Vacuum State FVP5, but reticent in dynamics with my other components.)
BTW, does the MSA cord need to be a goodly distance away from an MC step-up transformer?
The positive review by "Ozzyboy" has me interested. Do you think a Neo to the Exactpower +/- a "First" to preamp would be worthwhile?
Thanks and happy listening,
Harvey (in Los Angeles)
"I find I need a couple of hours on many BD products."
I hear you. I actually think mine sounded a little harsh at first then improved after a couple of hours to rather nice. But the next day, not so nice. Something along that line.
Peculiar. But those can be the most interesting sorts of things especially if some horrid deadline does not hang in the balance.
If I find anything interesting I'll let you guys know. I think my power amp. is the only piece of audio gear that uses that connector and a lot of my stuff is so old that it has fixed cords. I guess I could try it on my scope... Actually that might really be interesting. Anyway this is more fun than firecrackers and easier on my hearing, but I hear a bunch of my neighbors tuning theirs up for tomorrow as I peck.
Happy almost 4th, Rick
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