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The (DIY) wire chart shows that the skin effect roll off starts at 4150hz for 12awg. Someone says the roll off is like 6db per octave (or more). Gene Della Salla from Audioholics says he measured the roll off at .14 (point 14), essentially zero at 20,000 hz. What's going on? Anyone with a generator and scope? This should be easy, I think. Someone is incorrect about the amount of roll off from skin effect. I'd sure like to get this cleared up. Speltz at anti cable thinks it is very low, he sells well respected, well reviewed 12 awg speaker cable. Tweaker
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I use the same in-wall certified wire major home theatre installation companies use, it is not expensive, and there is no significant loss in high frequency sound. Most of this is propaganda from overpriced wire and interconnect companies
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To infer anything outside of kool-aid drinking uni-mind thinking regarding the ultimate value of aftermarket cables. I'm not an extremist like some here but, within reason, cables deserve some respect.
"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"
Edits: 03/18/14
I don't understand the rant against those who may strongly advocate the value of audiophile cables.
All I said was I'm not extreme in my view of aftermarket worth. I find the point of diminishing returns much lower than many express here. Also, I was indirectly warning kathryn-something from possible expulsion. All of my cables in all three of my systems use aftermarket upgraded cables.
"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"
Don't quit understand this comment, MT
others do.
"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"
... the lovely Syl 6u8a. Tweaker
Yet another naysayer accusation that particular cable companies and individual audiophiles are (perhaps in league) misleading the masses in order to line their pockets and/or empower willful deceptions (or innocent delusions).
Cheers, Duster
I'm not an EE nor do I wish to argue about the matter, so here's a link to a white paper from AudioQuest to ponder.
There is a section that addresses solid core conductor skin-effect from an audiophile POV.
See PDF file download link:
If it doesn't sound good, I don't want it. It doesn't really matter to me if it is skin effect or some other phenomenon. I would like to see a plausible explanation, but I am more inclined to trust what I hear.
Dave
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