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In Reply to: RE: Speaker cable options...and how much is too much for a particular stereo / home theater... posted by TimothyD11 on March 13, 2014 at 08:13:35
I would recommend the Kimber 4 VS for the fronts (L,R,C). More dynamic than the TC series, perhaps not quite as much detail, but very impressive for the fronts. If you want to save more, then the 4VS for center only and the 4PR for the L/R.
For the rears, I use simple 16 gauge. There's a reason why we have that saying 'talking behind your back'. Sound from the rear is primarily effects, rarely dialogue. Any decent cable with 16 gauge or larger will work well for rears.
YMMV of course.
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With kimber speaker wire, you can "puff" up the braid: push the wire together so that the weave opens up. sound improves noticeably by cutting down the capacitance and inductance (since now the strands are crossing each other at about 90 degrees). You gain even more dynamics and and a smoother more extended top end.
Down side is that with the TC series you lose about 25 % of the overall length. With the PR and VS series you lose about 20%. If you want to make the cable look exotic: slide a length of aquarium tubing or rope into the puffed up center. Makes the cable act more like the upper series of Kimber The Monocles and Select...
While the Kimber design features multi-gauge stranded conductors intended to help mitigate cable resonance, adding an appropriate core also helps to further dampen the cable resonance of the quasi-litz braided geometry.
which may interest you. The multiple gauge construction of Kimber in their VS (Vari Strand) and TC (Teflon Composite) lines actually can trace their origin to Stan Warren IIRC, who was then part of PS Audio ( the S of PS Audio, Paul McGowen being the P). Apparently they weren't into the cable business and passed the idea to Ray.
The idea of using the gauges to reduce resonance was George Cardas' idea. He has a patent with the golden ratio being the defining principle for the relationship of the gauges to each other. Although the Kimber construction was created empirically, in a way they adhere to the Cardas principle, as in nature such ratios exist in a one each of the appropriate gauge ( like a nautilus shell). Most Cardas wire I have dissected uses multiple stands of the same gauge before jumping up to the next gauge (have't taken their latest wire apart so I may be very wrong there).
IIRC Jeff Rowland uses the same idea for determining the gauges of the traces running along side each other on his circuit boards, or at least used to.
Such partnerships still exist today with Vandersteen collaborating with AQ on their charged cable design. Interesting tidbits.....
Nice insider information, thanks unclestu.
True litz wire requires special resonance damping methods in order to avoid what may sound like a subtle or not-so-subtle diagonal streak slashed across the soundstage. Cable aficionados might find it interesting to build a pair of true undamped litz wire DIY interconnects just to hear what severe cable resonance may sound like to their ear.
The Cardas approach reduces interaction between insulated single strands by implementing various gauge sizes within a litz wire bundle while imparting what's intended to sound natural if not pleasant about the Golden Ratio scheme. I reckon the pleasant sounding quality is what some folks might like or might not like about the Cardas house sound.
Yeah, but sonic improvements are clearly heard even without a center fill, as air, next to vacuum is the best dielectric.
Incidentally I've installed the puffed up cables for automotive stereo (under carpets) and even flattened down, achieve superb results. One local automotive shop which was a big Monster dealer used flattened kimber wire for their demos car while pushing the Monster stuff.....
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