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Hi All,
Trying to break in interconnects which is between my cd player with volume control, and a pair of monoblocks. (not using a preamp).
To break in the interconnects, do I need to:
a)power both the cd player and monoblocks on...and set on continuous play
b)power both units on but leave on idle
c)power on just the cd player and leave it on idle (or do I have to set on continous play
Thanks for input!
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And this is why I bought a Hagerman Frybaby years ago. At $249 it was cheaper than most of the IC's I've bought thru the years. No wear and tear on equipment and does an excellent job. Initial IC burn-in is 72
hrs. I periodically "recook" IC's, so it's always a part of my tweaking routine as well.
Dusters answer is correct although I havn't gone beyone 250 hours with critical listening. You can use a radio to save your cd player. No need to use a power amp turned on, it's the load resistor that you need, for interconnect. Tweaker
d. None of the above.
The correct answer is:
Play dynamic music set on continuous playback with the cd player, while the power amplifier is turned off.
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Note:
1. I recommend continuous playback with full-volume output for at least the first 15 hours non-stop before evaluating initial observations and insights.
2. Resume normal listening sessions and continue burn-in via looped CD playback during idle times.
3. Set a reminder to notify when 150 hours burn-in time is complete before making more serious judgements.
4. Further improvement may be expected after 250 hours total or more, via normal listening sessions, as well as continuing overnight burn-in sessions.
Cheers, Duster
Hi Duster,
Have a question. I am using a cd player without volume control now. Have it connected to a passive preamp. From the passive preamp to a pair of monoblocks. Therefore, there are 2 interconnects in use in this configuration. Where shall I place the target interconnect that I want to break in? From cd player to passive preamp? Or from passive preamp to monoblocks?
Should I still set the cd player at continuous playback with the preamp at full volume (with monoblocks turned off of course)?
Thanks!
pc123v wrote:
"Should I still set the cd player at continuous playback with the preamp at full volume (with monoblocks turned off of course)?"
You are correct.
Where the interconnects are positioned in the signal path should not matter as long as the volume control of the passive preamplifier is turned all the way up (with the power amplifiers turned off). The important thing is to provide a high output signal while the interconnect cables are connected to the load provided by the power amplifier input circuitry, of which will function the same regardless of whether or not the power amplifiers are turned on or off.
Thanks again Duster. Really appreciate it...:)
Well, it's killed me but I have waited a month before posting anything about my new cables (IC and SP). I haven't kept close track of the hours on them but the stereo plays most of the day and through the night. So a conservative total would be 300 hours on them.
They sounded very good right out of the box then after about 24 hours the sound fell apart. Things got thin, small and confused. They slowly recovered for the next 24-48 hours getting better each day. At about the 100 hour mark the sound was getting very good and has improved steadily to this day. A couple of days ago they also stepped up again in tone, fullness and cohesiveness. Pretty wild.
As you mentioned below, like you, I enjoy listening to the burn in process. When you first experience it though it can freak you out at times.
Thanks, Duster, for the taking the time here on the cable asylum in posting your findings on your cable journey. Your excellent review on the WireWorld Equinox IC helped me in going with a full suite of WireWorld cable and my system hasn't sounded this good in years.
Cheers,
Scott
Thanks Everyone!
I am breaking in my interconnects per your recommendation...:)
Duster: You are one of the few audiophiles who embrace long break-in hours and I fully support your methods. Many folks become upset if they have to do break-in for say 40 hours and blame it on the cable.
The Morrows do take ~400 hours. Others may not.
If one made choices only on non-broken in stuff, then their system is not likely to be too good.
On the other hand, as has been pointed out, if some equipment sounds bad initially, it is not likely to become good with burn in.
sbrians wrote:
"...if some equipment sounds bad initially, it is not likely to become good with burn in."
I think the topic indicates that some cables can nominally sound "bad" initially, then the sound improves, sometimes dramatically with ample burn-in time.
Depending on the dielectric material and other design factors, sometimes a new cable will at first sound poor, then good, then poor again during the early stages of burn-in.
If a listener isn't patient, they may become quite confused and even upset. I've learned to actually enjoy listening to a new cable while it's going through the burn-in process rather than panic ;-D
....is like a sine wave. It has its ups and downs, hills and valleys. Unfortunately, too many (impatient) listeners make an early judgement call when they hear something unpleasant. Very likely, the cable is in a "down" period, and needs more conditioning time.
While I have No Tech Knowledge I would (and Have) powered up cdp and amp and let it play. I use tube gear and love to roll so that stereo is on for a few days before I do any critical listening. Hope more tech and or experienced looneys chime in as I would like to know also.
POWER UP CD PLAYER AND PUT ON CONTINUOUS PLAY. yOU DO NOT NEED TO POWER UP THE POWER AMP
aLAN
That should be a lower case "P" to start "power" with your first sentence.
;-)
See ya. Dave
When the amps are off, turn up the volume on the CD player. If playing, but muted or at low volume, that would defeat the purpose. Some believe that a current must flow (a small current will flow into the amps even when they are off, as I understand), as opposed to just voltage. But higher voltage (volume) will result in higher current.
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I concur w/ Alan.
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