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In Reply to: RE: Personally I wouldn't go for anything from China. nt posted by Cpk on June 26, 2009 at 19:34:30
The SPC-V16E is obviously a Kimber knock-off that's of unknown sound quality nor build quality (a fake Rolex is not a Rolex). I would not advise purchase of any of the cables shown unless at the very least enough positive reports by trustworthy golden ears were available to consider. Even then, i would personally pass on them in favor of other available products of known sound/build quality. my 2 cents
I think it would be premature to say that this cable is not 'a real deal', but I'd agree that it's not 'the real deal' as it clearly is aiming to look like Kimber cable. Someone else mentioned the power plugs being Oyaide imitations. Of course, it seems they are being produced to look similar (or rather the same), but they aren't being sold under the name of the original. Maybe they know that there'll be people out there unscrupulous enough to sell them on under the names of Oyaide and Kimber - smart business practice?
Is there a patent against these products looking like they're from the more famous brand, even if they aren't being sold as such? Is a style of braid also patentable? I kind of suspect there are rules on this, but we all know how many Chinese firms take these with a pinch of salt. Or maybe they are just trying to create the best possible product on a lower budget?
The bottom line here for me is whether the speaker cable will outperform my DIY Cat5 efforts. I've looked into the Kimber 8TC and been scared off by the prices (I'm a pure budget kind of guy). This is a far more valid option. The guys running this business are sound and their other products have proven to be very effective, particularly the dirt cheap brass footers that look like miniature cymbals (I don't think they sell them any more though). I can't see how a combination of copper and insulation could *so* deviate from the quality of the product it is based on. I have no reason to believe that it's not OFC and PE. Although, I would be more hesistant to buy something like power plugs, hence I had no choice but to splash out on Furutech power and RCA plugs.
Assuming that they are lieing about what their product is would just be prejudicial and born of a kind of defensiveness. I mean, my feeling is that American companies and common business practice allow for a lot of misrepresentation of their products, but in their own particular way, ie marketing hype and massively jacked up prices. The Chinese at least know what the score is over there; they don't deny it. They're just sort of playing free-market hard-ball, if you know what I mean, and taking it to its logical conclusion; in a way taking it to its logical conclusion...
Anyway, whatever, I'll try the cables out and post a comparison to my CAT5s. Who knows, maybe some day I'll be able to compare them to proper Kimber cables.
Oh yeah, and my question was about whether to get the part silver part copper cable, or the all copper cable. It's funny how most people just got hung up the fact that I would dare order anything from China (I'm not having a dig at you per se).
Go ahead and buy what you want, either way YMMV knock off or not.
Besides there are benefits to braiding a cable, so if company X wants to braid their cable to take advantage of those benefits then so be it. Home Grow audio for example braids their cables....but people don't put them down as Kimber Kable knock offs. Or do they?
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