• My "start" answer is... - KGW 09:41:36 01/29/03 (1)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  (drum roll please) there is no electricity on a desert island.

  Sorry, couldn't resist.

  I second the ARRL handbook. Also, a friend gave me a copy of the Radiotron Designer's Handbook. Not bad, but not beginner oriented.
  

  
  KGW
  
  
  My DIY Page
  

  
  
  

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  • Re: My "smart" answer is... - KGW 12:30:26 01/29/03 (0)
    In Reply to: My "start" answer is... posted by KGW on January 29, 2003 at 09:41:36:

    I guess it serves me right to not check my spelling.
    

    
    KGW
    
    
    My DIY Page
    

    
    
    

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• Re: Desert Island Electronics Book - follower 17:33:44 01/28/03 (3)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  My good cousin Paul Stubblebine tireing of my constant questioning
  finaly recomended Tube Audio design by Bruce Rozenblit for starters and then for a more completediscussion, Radio Designer's Handbook, by F Langford-Smith (classic edition).If I remember they were 24.95 and 64.00 at Powell's. Both of these have proven invaluable and fun.

  regards Burke
  
  
  

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  • RDH is a helluva book - bill ramsay 20:07:06 01/28/03 (2)
    In Reply to: Re: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by follower on January 28, 2003 at 17:33:44:

    but well worth getting, it explains everything, however, it is not for the beginner to pick up as the style of the book is very much in technician who knows what he is doing style.

    the rosenblit book is good, so is valve amps by morgan jones, it goes on to talk about safety, soldering etc. it is written in an easy going style by a man that has tons of experience.

    if you want a copy of rdh4 i have two spare copies.

    kind regards

    bill ramsay
    
    

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    • Re: I'd love a copy - Russ57 00:30:45 01/31/03 (1)
      In Reply to: RDH is a helluva book posted by bill ramsay on January 28, 2003 at 20:07:06:

      Glad to pay ya something for it too. At least let me cover shipping:)

      Russ
      
      

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      • Re: I'd love a copy - bill ramsay 23:21:55 02/02/03 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: I'd love a copy posted by Russ57 on January 31, 2003 at 00:30:45:

        drop me an email will you
        
        

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• Re: Desert Island Electronics Book - (IanL) 17:06:47 01/28/03 (0)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  How 'bout this ?
  

  • http://www.tpub.com/neets/

  
  

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• internet - MikeW 16:52:03 01/28/03 (2)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  Total Newbie,

  There was someone at one time posting here that was collecting many of the internet electronics courses and websites. Hopefully, he will read this and post his list. Sorry I cannot remember his name. I've run across a few myself but his list would be enormous. Especially since one book cannot cover it all.

  Maybe someone knows of a real good list of this info on a website someplace.

  I'll try to find my small list and repost.

  MikeW
  
  

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  • Re: internet - Ryder 03:53:13 01/29/03 (0)
    In Reply to: internet posted by MikeW on January 28, 2003 at 16:52:03:

    That may be me. Someone else might be doing the same thing but I have a fairly decent list of online diy tube articles/sites going. One section is geared to explaining the basics for beginners. It is about 20 pages at this piont. Anyone wants a copy drop me an email.

    Craiag Ryder
    
    

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  • Internet List - JOE 21:01:04 01/28/03 (0)
    In Reply to: internet posted by MikeW on January 28, 2003 at 16:52:03:

    I’ve tired to list most of the informational web sites I’ve ran across on this forum and others.
    

    Links , their listed under InfoSites.
    

    Some day I’ll try puting them in better order.
    
    
    
    

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• Basement Find... - pRC 16:37:14 01/28/03 (1)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  Blithe was going through a box of old books left behind by some previous owner of our 1930's era domicile, and came up with one for me to look at - Holy Cow! Lots of great info:

  Radio Physics Course
  An Elementary Text Book on Electricity and Radio
  Alfred A. Ghirardi, EE
  Radio Technical Publishing, NYC, 1931

  This book looks to be written to cover all of the physics and electronics needed for 'an up to date course in radio', and has incredibly intricate illustrations. It's readable but also includes the basic math needed. Obviously, it's not going to have much on indirectly heated triodes, pentodes, or much of the later circuits, but for someone interested in battery power it's a gold mine. The guy who wrote this seems to have been genuinely excited about all of this cool new tube technology!

  We checked on Amazon, and old copies are available for $15-18. FYI, YMMV.

  Later/pRC
  
  

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  • 1931 - J Epstein 22:07:07 01/28/03 (0)
    In Reply to: Basement Find... posted by pRC on January 28, 2003 at 16:37:14:

    Funny - I just found a trigonometry text from 1931: William Wilder Burton, Plane Trigonometry. I figure trig hasn't changed much since then. Plus back then, they actually needed to know how to USE logs . . . .

    -j
    
    

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• Re: Desert Island Electronics Book - Cameron Etezadi 15:53:56 01/28/03 (1)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  Horowitz and Hill's "The Art of Electronics" $70 is probably the best, simplest general purpose book I've come across in my 15 or 20 years of reading this kind of literature. It's not much for the tube stuff, but as trivial-to-understand textbook introduction to practical electronic theory and applications, it's a godsend. There's a student's solution manual that goes with it that has all the exercises worked ($108 total for both the book and manual). You won't regret the cost of this one.

  It's not a how-to-solder guide, but it's middle of the road on theory with a healthy dose of engineering assumptions tossed in...like when factors can be discarded, what approximations are appropriate, etc. It's definitely one of the true classics, full of rules of thumb and bags of tricks that I use every day at work...
  
  
  
  
  

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  • I guess I disagree...... - Ryder 16:10:49 01/28/03 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by Cameron Etezadi on January 28, 2003 at 15:53:56:

    

    ""and bags of tricks that I use every day at work...."

    I find that is the key sentence. Don't get me wrong, Hills book is great! But not necessarily the cup of tea, IMHO, for a total newbie who wants to hobby and has zero background in basic electricity. It is always (well usually) the guys who do it all week at work who find Hill a godsend.

    Hill posts at the link below and by all means read his posts. He is a genius or something. Get the book too. But as a first book? You can get a copy here for about $15. http://www.oscarindia.com/cgi-bin/store/merchant.cgi

    Id get this basic text first for $12.
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0486210766/qid=1043799081/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7200164-1564744?v=glance&s=books

    Be kind. I once made this argument to a mechanical engineer and he told me I should take up sewing! hehehe

    And as you said, I just looked at the index. The word tube and valve do not appear in the Art of Electronics.
    
    

    • here

    
    

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• Re: Desert Island Electronics Book - Ryder 15:51:49 01/28/03 (2)
  In Reply to: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by total newbie on January 28, 2003 at 15:18:02:

  

  There is nothing that covers it all!!!!

  But a pre1960 ARRL handbook is one good place to start.

  Available at Ebay

  I also have a decent list of online diy tube info I'd be happy to send you if you drop me an email.

  Cheers
  Craig Ryder
  

  • ARRL

  
  

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  • I wholeheartedly second any ARRL handbook - Cameron Etezadi 15:57:06 01/28/03 (1)
    In Reply to: Re: Desert Island Electronics Book posted by Ryder on January 28, 2003 at 15:51:49:

    I have to agree with Craig, although I'll mention that the new ones are just as good as the old ones. They just rely less on tubes and more on digital logic and digital modes. It's worth getting a collection of these. I tend to buy a new edition every four or five years, and I use my 1950's and 60's as much as my 1990's editions.

    -C
    
    
    
    

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    • Thanks for agreeing... - Ryder 16:12:38 01/28/03 (0)
      In Reply to: I wholeheartedly second any ARRL handbook posted by Cameron Etezadi on January 28, 2003 at 15:57:06:

      I'll try to do the same but if your into tubes go with an old version first.

      Maybe a Radiotron Designer's Handbook too.
      
      

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