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12 Position Sweetest Whispers?

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Has anyone mentioned yet that if you remove the stop ring from the Lorlin switches used for the Sweetest Whispers that you can use all 12 positions instead of 11?
The stop ring is a washer with a small 90 degree tab on it that seats at the base of the bushing with the tab inserted into one of the 10 holes available so that the stops can be set at 2 to 11 positions. Removing the stop ring allows for all 12 positions to be used.
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Why don't you just make 10 louder? - Skip_Scratch 09:35:14 11/29/05 (3)
sorry, i couldn't resist.
- Re: Why don't you just make 10 louder? - Steve Eddy 10:07:41 11/29/05 (2)
  sorry, i couldn't resist.
  
  Nobody likes a smartass.
  Well, 'cept me. Good one. :)
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  - Re: Why don't you just make 10 louder? - Dyna Saur 11:03:23 11/29/05 (1)
    Well, on the FPIII, with the SW's one can actually turn their amp all the way up to "11"...
    ;-)
    - Re: Why don't you just make 10 louder? - Steve Eddy 13:26:35 11/29/05 (0)
      Well, on the FPIII, with the SW's one can actually turn their amp all the way up to "11"...
      
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Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Doc B. 07:50:38 11/29/05 (7)
Let us know how high you jump the first time you turn the knob all the way down and went one click past mute, to full blast. We used to hear about it all the time, before we went to a switch with a built in stop.
- Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Steve Eddy 08:04:36 11/29/05 (6)
  Let us know how high you jump the first time you turn the knob all the way down and went one click past mute, to full blast. We used to hear about it all the time, before we went to a switch with a built in stop.
  
  Why would the switch go one click past mute to full blast unless the switch was either broken or somebody wired it up wrong to begin with? The switch already has a built in stop for 12 positions (i.e. you can't keep going past postion 12 straight to position 1). At least the ones I have do.
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  - Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Doc B. 08:43:03 11/29/05 (5)
    Well there you go, I learn something every day. That last rotary switches we used had no stop at all and I always assumed that the 11 pos. stop in these was the only stop.
    - Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Steve Eddy 10:04:24 11/29/05 (4)
      Well there you go, I learn something every day. That last rotary switches we used had no stop at all and I always assumed that the 11 pos. stop in these was the only stop.
      
      Ah, ok. Yeah, some rotaries have continuous rotation if you don't add a stop. But these Lorlins give you the Full Monty with a built-in stop, so with an additional resistor, you'll be able to get a wee bit more range out of the Sweetest Whispers.
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      - Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Paul Joppa 10:12:36 11/29/05 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? posted by Steve Eddy on November 29, 2005 at 10:04:24:
        
        Looking at my FP-III, it appears that you could add a resistor of 6.19K ohms from pin 11 to pin 12, and take the output from pin 12 instead of 11. This would convert to a 21K control with one additional 3dB (louder) step.
        Anyone game to try it and report?
        I'll try to do a 15K alternative another time. This would only be practical for a new (not yet built) control, and will take more effort on my part since the steps are not uniform at the bottom.
        
        Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Steve Eddy 21:46:49 11/29/05 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? posted by Paul Joppa on November 29, 2005 at 10:12:36:
        
        Anyone game to try it and report?
        
        I guess I can give it a go if Mike doesn't mind. The SW kit I have is one he sent me the other day for doing some prototype work I'm helping him with. They were intended to be used with a pair of 15k:15k trannies so if it's ok with Mike to bump 'em up to 21k, I'll do it.
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        Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Paul Joppa 10:53:43 11/30/05 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? posted by Steve Eddy on November 29, 2005 at 21:46:49:
        
        You can wire it as 12-position and choose either the 15k or the 21k tap as the "top".
        
        Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - Steve Eddy 15:42:26 11/30/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? posted by Paul Joppa on November 30, 2005 at 10:53:43:
        
        You can wire it as 12-position and choose either the 15k or the 21k tap as the "top".
        
        Aye, true. And some clip leads so I can easily switch back and forth to compare. If I've got a 6.19k resistor handy I'll wire it up tonight.
        Thanks, Paul!
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Re: 12 Position Sweetest Whispers? - signals 05:46:34 11/29/05 (0)
Doh! That's why one of my SWs in my FIII has 12 stops... When I was putting one into the chassis, the stop ring fell out. I had no idea what it was for, and it didn't seem to matter how I mounted it when I replaced it. Now I know... I'll have to take it out and try to fix it tonight.
Thanks!
-Kevin

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