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In Reply to: RE: Heat and your gear posted by Bill Bond on June 27, 2015 at 18:06:37
... A hot day or night and a small room will be hot with or without audio equipment.
Air conditioning solves your problem and gives you a much higher comfort level.
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Sox
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We (speaking also for Bill and Mick, I hope) all run the AC. It's just that really hot amps cause the AC to run non-stop, which creates an annoying background noise and deteriorates the line AC making for a less than optimal listening session. With cool running components, you can cool down the room, turn off the AC and maybe have a nice half hour session, even more so after the sun goes down.
It was even worse when we lived in Costa Rica; extremely expensive electric was a big consideration all around and the high humidity made matters even worse.
I guess we all wish we had noiseless recording studio ventilation systems but that would require a remodel costing as much or more than our audio systems.
It may sound strange to some but having summer and winter amps does make sense for some of us living in climates that can get very hot. We hit 117F a week or two ago. The average lately has been 110F and with some early monsoon activity, now the humidity is up as well. And it doesn't end until early October. Strangely enough, I still love our home in Arizona.
Time to go outside now. Work on the boat and sweat a few pints.
... I get where you're coming from.
I live in the sup-tropics on the water so I know a little bit about heat and humidity.
You mention 110F & 117F which is 43C and 47C. Who in their right mind would not use aircon, if available, in such temperatures?
I like the heat when I am outside but I prefer the house to be about 22 year round.
Being comfortable whilst listening to audio is extremely important IMHO. If you live in a climate with the temps you mentioned then I would think aircon is an extremely important, I dare say essential, part of one's environment irrespective of what audio gear one may own.
It seems many folks have summer and winter amps, as such it should be easy to find a good sounding summer amp.
I'll stick with aircon :)
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Sox
I have AC, but like Vinyl Valet points out, it is noisy and it effects the line. Plus, I don't like running the AC when the rest of the house is fairly cool.
I am currently using a pair of Magico M5's...which are of medium efficiency. Really like this speaker and don't want to trade for a higher efficiency design. I also love tubes, but realize that they give off a lot of heat. The same seems to be true for all class A or Class A/B ss amps with power in the 150+ watts area. I may have to look at class B amps or the Naim's as suggested above. Not sure how they would sound with the M5's??
Edits: 06/28/15
I have to agree with Vinyl Valet in regard to Naim. Never was that impressed and thought it screamed solid state. Oh yes, and overpriced as already mentioned. If you're dead set against class D amplification, IMHO you can't do much better at a reasonable price than Rick's McCormack suggestion. My friend had an Audible Illusions Mod3/DNA 1 combination and it was superb.
Exactly. When I had big, hot amps, if I could get the listening room fairy comfortable everyone in other rooms would be freezing. Not the best use of energy.
IMHO, forget Naim. I've owned big and small Naim systems. Naim can sound very good but it's grossly overpriced, not even a good value at wholesale/used prices. It's not hard to find better sound at much more reasonable prices. In addition their DIN connectors really limit your cable choices. I also don't like the company. Rather than repeat myself, go to the Vintage forum and search for Naim is the worst.
My two favorite living audio electronics designers are Nelson Pass and John Curl. Based on that, I would first recommend Parasound's very reasonably priced offerings. If none of them work for you, take a look at the more expensive Pass Labs gear.
Good luck in your search. Really nice speakers. If you lived nearby, I would bring my modified Class D Audio SDS-254 over for a listen. I think it would be interesting.
class AB amp might be more affordable.If you have an access to a dealer, give them a listen.
I love tube sound ( albeit my preference is in DH SET types ) and Naim amps were the closest in micro dynamics, transparency and speed.
Edits: 06/28/15
certainly don't see why you'd need a class B amp. Class A is a different story. As an example.........
My class AB McCormack 150 wpc (8ohms) DNA-1 Deluxe gives off very little heat. The McCormack gets just slightly warm to the touch after being on all day - not even remotely close to really hot. Though it isn't an everyday occurrence, DNA-1's and DNA-2's (both of which would easily drive your spkrs. - my spkrs. are 88db) do come up for sale used, and sometimes with upgrades already done by Steve.
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