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In Reply to: RE: Question about build quality - pics posted by morricab on May 12, 2015 at 19:44:59
There is an old saying a picture is worth a thousand words. The pic posted to this thread shows electronics that are little more than junk. Not a single proper solder joint in sight. If they can't get this right one can only imagine how poor the rest of the engineering must be. Anyone that thinks this thing represents quality has no idea what they are talking about.
As I said only audiophiles would make excuses for such a thing.
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You have your opinion...not universally shared. As I have said, just look for people complaining about failures of this amp. You won't find much. Could it have been built better, probably. Does it really pose a quality issue? Probably not.
In addition, the amp was measured by Hifi critic and Hifi News and both found that it measures pretty well for what it is, a low powered Class A tube amp with output transformers (some engineers would say that by definition it is poorly engineered just because of what it is), so clearly the engineering is not as atrocious as you claim the build quality to be.
FWIW, I have not found that anything feels poorly made nor are any sockets loose and feeling insecure.
In the end I have heard enough immaculately built amps that sonically are shit to last a lifetime. Many of those brands have lots of failures as well so it is no guarantee of quality.
Failures? How many of these POS units have been built? Rarely does the audio press give us follow-ups on failure rates, etc., so who cares what they have to say on the subject? And has been demonstrated by the review many audio reviewers don't have a clue when it comes to build quality.
You can wax on all you want about how good it sounds, give me any number of glowing reviews, say it is just my opinion, etc. It does not change the fact that the unit is horribly built.
If you like it great! Your money, your happiness. I would not touch the thing it is a failure waiting to happen. And like most Chinese made garbage when that day comes one will most likely have a boat anchor. No parts, no schematics, no factory support, etc.
As I have said now three times only audiophiles would make excuses for such garbage. You just cannot accept the fact that the thing is junk and continue to make excuses. Might sound great but it is built like crap. If that is your idea of quality fantastic. We have a different idea of what the word means. No need to argue the point.
Horribly built? You can judge that from a few photos? I doubt it. If it doesn't fail then it couldn't have been built too badly. If it measures pretty good (it does) then it couldn't have been designed too badly. If Lampizator (a man who knows his way around tube designs) thinks it is a good design with good sound and decent parts then I am more inclined to believe him and now having it for myself I know he was right.
Mine is already more than 5 years old and has no failures...probably won't for another 10 at least.
It doesn't hum or buzz, even through my 98db speakers, better than a lot of so-called better made units.
"You just cannot accept the fact that the thing is junk and continue to make excuses."
You cannot make these judgements from a couple of photos. I own it and have owned and modded plenty of high end equipment and while it is not fancy it is solid.
What would qualify as a quality product for you? How many years would it have to work before a failure for you to say, "yep, that is a good machine"? 10 years? 20? 30? Old McIntosh tube amps? Sure they are well made but sound?? I take the A30 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I have other amps made in Slovakia and Serbia and they are beautifully made...they sound great too but they are probably no more likely to last 30 years than the A30. I had American amps that failed, european amps that failed etc. they had nice soldering but flaws somewhere in the design (too high voltage or temperature on certain parts is a common failure).
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