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In Reply to: RE: Rogue Audio vs BAT posted by AbeCollins on April 21, 2015 at 06:45:15
I concur- Abe. The ARC integrated is very easily trumped by the Rogue!
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Fantja I've never heard the ARC 60 but what gets me is ARC's innards or lack of. What I mean is ever look inside some ARC pieces? Not much to them. I would have a problem spending my money on some of their gear as they don't weight anything. I am no electrical engineer but when I see a nice looking chassis and hardly any electrical components in it but a small circuit board I am having a real issue laying down my money on a piece that hardly weighs anything lol. Just my 2 cents.
W/ the ARC integrated amps, you have not missed anything. There are much better pieces that offer a better bang for your buck.
Now, separates is another story. You must audition the Reference 5SE pre-amp- very fine indeed!
A friend of mine has a VT-100 MKII I think it is and it sounds wonderful. Very powerful and that good tubey sound. He also has a ARC preamp but not sure which one but I do know its high $$$$.
I agree about the ARC VT100mkII. It was a powerful and full-bodied sounding amp that performed nicely with my Thiel and Tannoy speakers. However, I couldn't quite warm up to the ARC LS16mkII or LS25mkII linestages. The Ref series are possibly much better.
Abe a buddy of mine has the ARC LS-20 with the super tube. It is supposed to be a mini Ref 3. I haven't heard his system in quite sometime but tonight I went to his house to listen to his Revel F-32's. He has a Cary 200.5 amp, ARC LS-20 Pre and Classe C-300 CDP. I have to say the ARC sounded pretty darn good. Matter of fact his system sounded excellent.The F32's pumped out some damn good bass for two 6.5" woofers. The Cary amp is very nice and has a lot of power, snap and overall warmth which I like. The F32's also sound smooth, detailed and non-fatiguing for a speaker with a small footprint.
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