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In Reply to: RE: $85.000.00 posted by Ampzilla on March 21, 2015 at 15:14:22
I was at THE NEWPORT last year and Didn't Hear the XS Pass Amps.
The room was about 120f and they shut 'em off to keep from giving everyone in the room HEATSTROKE. It was like stepping into a summertime Palm Springs Pizza Oven.
Me? IF I Could afford these amps, I'd also need an additional TON of AC in the house, double glazed windows (6 more of 'em) and change my house to a 150amp service from 100 amp.
Not to mention the additional 2x 20 amp circuits, one for each channel. AND additional insulation everywhere ELSE.
It could EASILY run another 10 large on TOP of the cost for the amps. I wonder if my Parasound P5 would make these amps happy or if I'd end up with some Additional Expense for a new pre?
Too much is never enough
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This has been about the MILDEST winter EVER. The last few days clipped 90f, and I'm within 10 miles of the COAST.
I've BBQ'd 2 and 3 times per week since I got my NEW XL BGE. That's the EASY and tasty way to keep from heating up the house.
I'll get this place down to maybe 66f or 67f by morning and CLOSE UP as it gets warmer.
I'll run my AC ONLY if I really need it.
Those HUGE XS amps? NOT. I'f I COULD afford it, I'd consider a PAIR of the 30.5 or 30.8 amps and BIAMP my panels. I need another trip to RENO!
Too much is never enough
When you can just buy a pair of the monoblocks (e.g. xa60.8)? I don't understand what you think you are gaining. Please elaborate.
I think Richard Vandersteen figured it out: the Hall Effect is why bi-wiring and bi-amping can make such a dramatic difference, and especially why there is a big difference at very low signal levels.
It also explains why some people get good results from bi-wiring, and others don't. (If the two wire pairs are in a common sheath there won't be much of an improvement, if any.) With bi-amping, the wires will be separated, so it's not an issue.
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"A man need merely light the filaments of his receiving set and the world's greatest artists will perform for him." Alfred N. Goldsmith, RCA, 1922
Forget hall effect. In going to Biamp with a PAIR of the XA 30 series, I'd ALSO install a Line Level crossover.
My panels crossover very near the 50:50 point for power needed, this with the low cut of the main speakers and addition of a sub.
The Line Level crossover would net me NEARLY 3db due ot the amps not even SEEING the out of band signal. Net result would be quite the bump in power. don't forget the 30.5 redlines at about 200 watts per channel @4ohms.
My current setup with a pair of Parasound A23 has about the net power of a SINGLE A21 but will roughly double that after the line level crossover installation.
The Pass would be a 'Dream System' but the Parasound is NOW.
I'm puzzled that many manufacturers are deleting the biamp/wire provision. But I can understand for 2 reasons. Costing and minimal real effects of bi amp/wire when the crossover INSIDE the speaker is left in the circuit. THAT is the limit.
Too much is never enough
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