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In Reply to: RE: By "Floored" I Mean... posted by Doug Schroeder on January 18, 2015 at 05:34:57
I don't recall ever reading a review of yours.
But it seems with your superlatives used here that you are in danger of committing the very same offense you claim to have such an acute awareness of in so many others.
For example, you said, "By floored, I mean a greater than usual surprise at the changes the Liquid Pre has made."
If that is true, wouldn't the popular and perhaps overused phrase, "Exceeded my expectations" more accurately reflect your experience with the Liquid Pre?
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as it leads to boring writing, and I do not wish to be a boring writer. However, neither do I wish to lose credibility in overstating a product's performance.
In the end the community, as the hear the Liquid Pre, will judge whether I have overstated the case.
The greatest impediment to advancing an audiophile system is the audiophile.
So you'd rather err on the side of hype than risk being lazy and boring? Don't you think we already have enough hype in this industry?I guess where I'm struggling with your potential hype here is previously you seem to have spoke as though you are familiar with every tweak and every tweak's tiny performance limitation, even to the point you won't bother with them in comparison to component upgrades.
Yet, you've admitted you've done nothing to treat the universally noisy AC coming in from the street that dramatically affects every last system, and therefore you're unfamiliar with the potential benefits of proper line conditioning.
It's good to hear that you have tried some line conditioners. But just because the one's you've tried were inferior, should not imply all line conditioners are inferior. That's like saying I tried several crappy preamps, therefore, all preamps are crappy.
Yes, most line conditioners induce their own sonic harm whereas finding proper or superior line conditioner is more like looking for a needle in a haystack. But they do exist and it seems a bit naive that you would choose to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
You know, some of those who have extensive experience with proper line conditioning would say they couldn't tolorate listening to a system without proper line conditiong for more than 10 or 15 minutes due to ear fatigue. Even if that system contained the world's best preamp and cables.
In fact, if a component or cable is truly superior, it's a given that it is more revealing. Yet, a more revealing component does not discriminate between what it reveals more of. IOW, while revealing more music it's also revealing more distortions, (which you obviously have).
The fact that you do little or nothing to minimize the universal noisy AC coming in from the street and since you've not complained about any additional harshness or fatigue with the Liquid Pre installed in your untreated system, one could easily conclude we're not hearing accurate or objective feedback here about the Liquid Pre.
Or perhaps the Liquid Pre induces such a coloration that many of the pre-existing distortions (and quite possibly some of the music) are masked to lessen ear fatigue. Thus giving the appearance to the unaware it is "more musical".
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hype.
Look in the mirror.
As you seem quite intent on sifting through my comments for criticism, I don't see a great deal of gains from such jousting. For that reason I am done with this conversation. Blessings to you. :)
The greatest impediment to advancing an audiophile system is the audiophile.
Actually, Doug, your comments were raising red flags left and right starting with the title of your first post.
Your comments such as "knocked me to the floor", "sea change", "lightninng speed", and perhaps others do little to exhibit credibility. Not to mention some of your other worldly comments.
But more importantly, if you're unable or unwilling to take advantage of the fabulous benefits of proper line conditioning, not only are you potentially significantly compromising your product reviews, but also your own personal listening enjoyment and growth.
I'd recommend the fabulous Foundation Research line conditioners I've been using for years but that company went defunct several years ago. As I recall, over the past 15 years years, every reviewer who reviewed the Foundation Research line conditioners purchased the review samples. But there's still a few excellent line conditioners out there. For example, I recently auditioned several Jena Labs line conditioners and they seem to be every bit as good as the ones I use, if not a tad better.
You say this Liquid preamp floored you. Well, imagine experiencing similar performance gains to every one of your components simultaneously via superior line conditioning. I'd almost be afraid to read your superlatives.
But at least we and you would know that you're performing due diligence as a reviewer to maximize your system's level of musicality which can only add credibility to your comments and reviews and even the mazazine you represent. Not to mention the enhanced pleasure you'll get every time you sit down between your speakers.
Of course Mr. Stehno would *never* resort to hyperbole. Here's what he says about a $12,000 rack he created and offers for sale on his site. Very restrained :-)
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